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knucklehead wrote: Glad to see you have no problem with handing out large tax breaks in affluent areas. I assumed that was you position but wanted confirmation.

should tax policy have morals or should it be amoral?

knucklehead wrote: Glad to see you have no problem with handing out large tax breaks in affluent areas. I assumed that was you position but wanted confirmation.

I am not sure how you came to that conclusion.  Just because I just didn't come out and condemn the tax break doesn't mean I have no problem with it.  Afterall see points 1 and 3.

Overall it appears to be a good project.  Evidently the people in Kansas want a museum and are willing to pay for it.  The museum may come with some strings attached but at least those strings are a mixed-use development as opposed to retail only.

Nothing say more about what's wrong with KC than this project.  Pretty much sums it all up right here.

Development to seek more public financing from Overland Park

The Prairiefire at Lionsgate project team will talk to the City Council tonight about taking advantage of a new and more expansive incentive to raise $30 million that could be used to promote the project, secure tenants, construct buildings and improve infrastructure.

The developers want a community improvement district to collect the money through an extra 1.5 percent tax on sales in Prairiefire at Lionsgate. The law allows community improvement districts to add a sales tax as high as 2 percent.

KCMax wrote: Development to seek more public financing from Overland Park

GRID wrote: Nothing say more about what's wrong with KC than this project.  Pretty much sums it all up right here.

Of course they should do it!  Suddenly....Overland Park will become nationally relevant once they get a museum in a strip mall.  Talk about the holy grail of attractions!

Overland Park City Council will consider Prairiefire incentives

Meeting at 7:30 tonight.

Approved. 

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/01/10/25 ... tives.html

Red state fiscal responsibility, free markets and limitted government triumph again. Viva la Tea Party, Kansas! Fucking viva.

although it has been used by some smaller nearby cities

which ones, brad cooper? hmm?

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/02/09/26 ... 135th.html

The developer of the planned Prairiefire at LionsGate development in Overland Park has announced its first retail tenant, a 20-screen movie complex that?s expected to open in spring 2013.

Developer Fred Merrill said Wednesday that Cinetopia, a movie theater chain based in Vancouver, Wash., plans to open what will be called the Cinetopia Overland Park 20.

Seriously???  Another multiplex theater where we have AMC 20/30 and the Palazzo?? 

I've actually been to Cinetopia. I think they mainly operate boutique-y type places like the Screenlands. They're OK, but unless they pull a rabbit out of their hat they're going to get eaten alive here.

No way that area can support another 20 screen theater.  I think there are more megaplex theaters in JoCo alone then all of Metro DC.

They should replace the Cinetopia with a mega-church.

trailerkid wrote: I've actually been to Cinetopia. I think they mainly operate boutique-y type places like the Screenlands. They're OK, but unless they pull a rabbit out of their hat they're going to get eaten alive here.

Are you thinking of the same Cinetopia.

I know the exec chef who opened the Pac NW one about 5 years ago, so my info is certainly biased, but the concept (at least in its original form) is more like the AMC Mainstreet downtown if the Marquee served good food and had a deep wine list.  No idea on how well they execute or whether that vision will translate during expansion.  They really are shooting for a high cinephile experience, I think.

E.g., the opening Vinotopia menu: http://www.alanlake.com/images/v_dinner.gif

Not sure if Vinotopia is part of what they're bringing to KC, er, OP.

AJoD wrote: Are you thinking of the same Cinetopia.

I know the exec chef who opened the Pac NW one about 5 years ago, so my info is certainly biased, but the concept (at least in its original form) is more like the AMC Mainstreet downtown if the Marquee served good food and had a deep wine list.  No idea on how well they execute or whether that vision will translate during expansion.  They really are shooting for a high cinephile experience, I think.

E.g., the opening Vinotopia menu: http://www.alanlake.com/images/v_dinner.gif

Not sure if Vinotopia is part of what they're bringing to KC, er, OP.

YES. I went to a Cinetopia in Vancouver, WA a few years ago. It had a decent bar...maybe a little hipper than your average bar in a movie theater. They had an auditorium you can rent with comfortable, lounge seating with body pillows and whatnot (which is kind of gross now that I mention it). The location I was in seemed kind of old and strip mallish, but in an endearing way. I didn't eat there, but it wasn't something I would drive to 135th Street to experience again. Do folks in SoJoCo care about a "high cinephile" experience curated by some Portlandian chef as you've described? I seriously, seriously doubt it. Maybe he should look at taking over the Tivoli or doing something in Midtown.

20 screens seems like a pretty odd venture for them just based off the Liberty Hall-esque, boutiquey operation I experienced, but maybe they're getting a lot of money from the developer. On a totally unrelated sidenote...the location I visited in suburban Vancouver was robbed the night after I was there.

Yes but Glenwood is on the other side of Overland Park and Great Mall of Plains is at 151st and Oak Park Mall is at 95th Street and Palzoo is at 135th Street.

Shawnee - WestGlen

Oak Park - not that far from Dickinson Palazzo or AMC Studio 30