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^every inch of their downtown? This is freaking Main Street. Most of the rest of downtown is always dead....compared to most other major cities. Downtown KC is just a very quiet place. It's a little better than it used to be on evenings and weekends because people live there now, but daytime is about the same as it has always been since so few people work there.

The river market is noticeably busier than it used to be since it's about six times more built up than it used to be. But if you just drive into downtown KC during a nice weather middle of a day, it will feel very dead and quiet to most people that travel around. It's not really a bad thing for those that live there I guess, but I personally like a bit of hustle and bustle, so that's why I notice KC being different.

Again, there is not a single street that goes totally through downtown connecting surrounding neighborhoods. That's why I wouldn't mind having some traffic on Broadway instead of routing it all on the west loop. Get rid of the access to the loop all together for Broadway and Oak. If people want to take that route to get to I-35, they can make their way to an on ramp in another part of downtown.

No reason to take it so personal that downtown KC really is a pretty dead place unless the venues are active. It's nice to see more and more people out waking around at least during evenings etc.

The Crossroads is MUCH more vibrant than it used to be. North Loop is always dead nmw, even before everyone started working remote.

Once the Royals move to the EV, the north loop section of Main is gonna be the worst part of downtown. By far.

UMKC Roo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:51 pm Once the Royals move to the EV, the north loop section of Main is gonna be the worst part of downtown. By far.

Need to start a petition to shame Tower properties if nothing else.

ok. we've went round and round about this for a decade and there is nothing really here to discuss. Again sorry for bringing it up. Great pics.

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:05 pm ok. we've went round and round about this for a decade and there is nothing really here to discuss. Again sorry for bringing it up. Great pics.

+1

I mean some people are delusional. I live and walk the crossroads every day and it's not rare for me to be the only person I see out walking at the time.

I think some people confuse businesses doing well to that translating to foot traffic.

It's still very much a car based atmosphere.

WoodDraw wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:36 pm I mean some people are delusional. I live and walk the crossroads every day and it's not rare for me to be the only person I see out walking at the time.

I think some people confuse businesses doing well to that translating to foot traffic.

It's still very much a car based atmosphere.

Lol what? The energy is night and day compared to even 10 years ago.

Speaking of Crossroads and foot traffic -- is First Fridays still happening tomorrow? I can't find the calendar for whether they're doing it or not.

So if someone knows...

Yes it is.

daGOAT wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 12:05 am

WoodDraw wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:36 pm I mean some people are delusional. I live and walk the crossroads every day and it's not rare for me to be the only person I see out walking at the time.

I think some people confuse businesses doing well to that translating to foot traffic.

It's still very much a car based atmosphere.

Lol what? The energy is night and day compared to even 10 years ago.

That's not what I said...

UMKC Roo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 5:08 am Speaking of Crossroads and foot traffic -- is First Fridays still happening tomorrow? I can't find the calendar for whether they're doing it or not.

So if someone knows...

It happens every month, without fail. Some months are bigger than others, of course.

https://kccrossroads.org/this-first-friday/

Streetcar service paused after the Calverts set of buildings caught fire. Idk how the damage is but construction barriers up on Main Street tonight

normalthings wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:32 am Streetcar service paused after the Calverts set of buildings caught fire. Idk how the damage is but construction barriers up on Main Street tonight

Latest update is the streetcar will not open tomorrow am.

The building is coming down today.

DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:42 am The building is coming down today.

Was it the Calverts garage, or the ones to the south?

Anthony_Hugo98 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:53 am

DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:42 am The building is coming down today.

Was it the Calverts garage, or the ones to the south?

1 floor near south had door open. Orange sign on the 2 floor building (can’t read it). Guess is both are going?

Edit:
demo started. Who pays?

normalthings wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:28 pm

Anthony_Hugo98 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:53 am

DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:42 am The building is coming down today.

Was it the Calverts garage, or the ones to the south?

1 floor near south had door open. Orange sign on the 2 floor building (can’t read it). Guess is both are going?

Edit:
demo started. Who pays?

Cordish.

Homeless people got in and started fires which caught building on fire compromising the roof and structure.

Service reinstated, sidewalk remains closed between 16th and Truman, though.

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 8:26 pm Every building is active in that shot and they aren't short buildings. Definitely cold and time of day play a part but just taking it on its face a depressing shot. Don't show that to anybody

"Kansas City is a lot of things, but mostly parking."

Thought of this quote when I looked at that photo. There are large buildings, but a significant amount of the shot is structured parking (as you are well aware I know).