KCMO Downtown Streetcar
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I'm still holding out hope that some day the zones that are blocked off along the Main streetcar line with plastic barriers will be replaced with concrete curbs & planting beds. Those plastic barriers are ugly (and will look more tired with age). If those spaces truly are no-go-zones then lets make them permanent and pretty!
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the plastic barriers are called flex bollards. there's also fancier bollards that can be put in made of concrete. using standing planters is another optionMidtownkid wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:26 am I'm still holding out hope that some day the zones that are blocked off along the Main streetcar line with plastic barriers will be replaced with concrete curbs & planting beds. Those plastic barriers are ugly (and will look more tired with age). If those spaces truly are no-go-zones then lets make them permanent and pretty!
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I'm thinking of something that is permanent, not a movable planter or bollard. I literally want to see landscaped medians and sidewalk bumpouts that mimic the current flex bollard layout. Yeah, they would be a little odd shaped, but that wouldn't bother me.
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A non movable planter is called a permanent planter.
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Go look at the federal courthouse for a permanent bollard. they're not movable since they're designed to stop a vehicle from getting close post-OK City bombing
there's plenty of places actual bump outs makes sense but not everywhere. I can find places across the city where adding bike parking would be as easy as a few bollards.
starting with flex for quick installation and moving to concrete over time isn't a bad idea
there's plenty of places actual bump outs makes sense but not everywhere. I can find places across the city where adding bike parking would be as easy as a few bollards.
starting with flex for quick installation and moving to concrete over time isn't a bad idea
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It's cheaper to enforce the law.flyingember wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:30 pmI kind of wonder if it's
cheaper to pour concrete and completely block parking
vs
the cost to drill a hole, buy a sign, place a sign and then hire someone to ticket people who ignore the sign.
vs
flex bollard placement and replacement
because code has a 20 foot from corner rule that's widely ignored. in the same sense there doesn't need to be a center turn lane where there's no curb cuts.
You also happen to make money by doing that.
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Oh! thank you for that! Gee I never would have know that without your excellent input!
I don't think it should just be a big planter, permanent or not. It should look like an extension of the sidewalk. Remove the un-used street.
This rendering somewhat shows what I'm talking about. See that little green space between the streetcar and the street?
Another example
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Yes Please! Though we need to sort out who is going to maintain because right now we are awful and landscape maintenance.
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I hope the joke wasn't lost.
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pocket parks thread part ii!!
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Bushes would be easier to maintain than grass. Have to mow every other week at times but you can prune a bush twice a year tops
Hardscapes with sculptures.
Fancy fencing or textured walls.
The Muse of Missouri is a good example on a large scale.
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North Loop shelter construction progress:
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Do we know the least used stop? My guess would be north bound north loop or northbound performing arts center.
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North Loop, then Kauffman, but North Loop is used way more than the initial estimates indicated.KCPowercat wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:06 am Do we know the least used stop? My guess would be north bound north loop or northbound performing arts center.
Check slide 12: http://kcstreetcar.org/wp-content/uploa ... esults.pdf
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Oh yeah I remember that slideshow now. Very cool visualizations
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Would we ever consider removing a stop?DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:41 amNorth Loop, then Kauffman, but North Loop is used way more than the initial estimates indicated.KCPowercat wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:06 am Do we know the least used stop? My guess would be north bound north loop or northbound performing arts center.
Check slide 12: http://kcstreetcar.org/wp-content/uploa ... esults.pdf
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original estimates for a weekdayDaveKCMO wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:41 amNorth Loop, then Kauffman, but North Loop is used way more than the initial estimates indicated.KCPowercat wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:06 am Do we know the least used stop? My guess would be north bound north loop or northbound performing arts center.
Check slide 12: http://kcstreetcar.org/wp-content/uploa ... esults.pdf
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If the system expands a lot more, sure. Portland has done it to improve travel times.langosta wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:39 pmWould we ever consider removing a stop?DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:41 amNorth Loop, then Kauffman, but North Loop is used way more than the initial estimates indicated.KCPowercat wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:06 am Do we know the least used stop? My guess would be north bound north loop or northbound performing arts center.
Check slide 12: http://kcstreetcar.org/wp-content/uploa ... esults.pdf
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I remember once questioning why the North Loop stop was needed. It has since become the stop I use the most.