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KCPowercat wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:59 pm It's frustrating because we specifically put in ordinances that if sidewalks need to be closed more than 15 days (understandable this has to happen) then alternative passage needs to be made on the same side of the street. It's actually done maybe 15% of the time since that was passed.

If a construction site wants to close a lane of traffic so they can park, fine by me. Let them pay the fee and close it. The fees for both aren't nearly high enough if you ask me.

DColeKC wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:34 pm

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:59 pm It's frustrating because we specifically put in ordinances that if sidewalks need to be closed more than 15 days (understandable this has to happen) then alternative passage needs to be made on the same side of the street. It's actually done maybe 15% of the time since that was passed.

If a construction site wants to close a lane of traffic so they can park, fine by me. Let them pay the fee and close it. The fees for both aren't nearly high enough if you ask me.

Granted, but it's sometimes impossible to provide an alternative route. Especially when building new and dealing with 6ft of public sidewalk that literally butts up against the buildings exterior.

I agree with the above mentioned that while closures, both pedestrian and traffic are highly annoying, it's all worth it as long as development is happening.

Btw, I was in NYC and this is where I saw several pedestrian nightmares.

Riverite wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:06 am How are things going with this project, didn’t they work out a deal where cordish gets something too? Are they happy with the project now? Are they going to build an office building soon?

normalthings wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:02 am

Riverite wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:06 am How are things going with this project, didn’t they work out a deal where cordish gets something too? Are they happy with the project now? Are they going to build an office building soon?

Strata is happening. The latest documents that I saw (from the week of the approval) showed that there was the intent to negotiate with Cordish to be the construction manager for the parking garage. To be honest, having separate CM’s for the garage and the tower above it does not sound like a great scenario. You’d be hard pressed to convince me this isn’t being done other than to quiet Cordish.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Cordish looks to add an office component to Four Light. Demand/rents are high and the potential 5 Light location isn’t viable for office.

beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:44 pm The Garment District will be gone with Stratas construction and the retail in that block will be ammenity space for the company(ies) that will be in the building. What Cordish gets with the construction is full rent on the block from Strata at above price rents.

DColeKC wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:00 pm

beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:44 pm I certainly think the currently empty space could be leased by Strata but obviously Yard House isn't going anywhere. The Garment District isn't going anywhere unless the offer is just too good to turn down. Cordish is getting hundreds of younger, well paid employees who will need a place to live, so anything else on top of that is gravy!

A small local shop selling T-shirt’s and jewelry can’t compete with a corporate entity that wants a grand lobby entrance with high ceilings to meet clients face to face. They will pay a large price for that space and that is why Cordish is participating. Garment District will have to move, perhaps over by Rally House?

DColeKC wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:00 pm user
I certainly think the currently empty space could be leased by Strata but obviously Yard House isn't going anywhere. The Garment District isn't going anywhere unless the offer is just too good to turn down. Cordish is getting hundreds of younger, well paid employees who will need a place to live, so anything else on top of that is gravy!

beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:05 pm

DColeKC wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:00 pm user
I certainly think the currently empty space could be leased by Strata but obviously Yard House isn't going anywhere. The Garment District isn't going anywhere unless the offer is just too good to turn down. Cordish is getting hundreds of younger, well paid employees who will need a place to live, so anything else on top of that is gravy!

A small local shop selling T-shirt’s and jewelry can’t compete with a corporate entity that wants a grand lobby entrance with high ceilings to meet clients face to face. They will pay a large price for that space and that is why Cordish is participating. Garment District will have to move, perhaps over by Rally House?

beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:05 pm

DColeKC wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:00 pm user
I certainly think the currently empty space could be leased by Strata but obviously Yard House isn't going anywhere. The Garment District isn't going anywhere unless the offer is just too good to turn down. Cordish is getting hundreds of younger, well paid employees who will need a place to live, so anything else on top of that is gravy!

A small local shop selling T-shirt’s and jewelry can’t compete with a corporate entity that wants a grand lobby entrance with high ceilings to meet clients face to face. They will pay a large price for that space and that is why Cordish is participating. Garment District will have to move, perhaps over by Rally House?

flyingember wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:47 pm So the existing unused space to install a grand lobbey isn't enough?

beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:17 pm

flyingember wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:47 pm So the existing unused space to install a grand lobbey isn't enough?

No, the unused section would just be large enough for possible up and down escalators to 2nd floor space, elevators and a guard desk. Even taking the Garment District wouldn’t make enough space for a lobby half as large as H&R Block’s, for example. I am curious what the original plan was for this building under the original design plan, which was a second tower for Block. I know Block has some steel on their building facing where the new tower would be. Did they envision a connecting walkway? I can’t think they envisioned their employees walking back and forth outside to get to a meeting in the other building.

smh wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:27 pm DCole said that space was larger than the One Light lobby. That seems sufficient, no?

beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:17 pm

flyingember wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:47 pm So the existing unused space to install a grand lobbey isn't enough?

No, the unused section would just be large enough for possible up and down escalators to 2nd floor space, elevators and a guard desk. Even taking the Garment District wouldn’t make enough space for a lobby half as large as H&R Block’s, for example. I am curious what the original plan was for this building under the original design plan, which was a second tower for Block. I know Block has some steel on their building facing where the new tower would be. Did they envision a connecting walkway? I can’t think they envisioned their employees walking back and forth outside to get to a meeting in the other building.

beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:39 pm

smh wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:27 pm DCole said that space was larger than the One Light lobby. That seems sufficient, no?

No, a residential building with a couple hundred residents needing just a doorman and small waiting area for guests would be much smaller than a corporate lobby for many more employees and clients.

DColeKC wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:44 pm The Garment District is operated by Cordish, so they won't give it up unless it's a great opportunity. They understand the importance of local retail.