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People will just complain about parking and traffic. I actually find it easier to park and exit out of a Cardinals or Twins game than it is at a Royals game. In St Louis, you can park easily over by 14th and Clarke and the Freeway ramp is right there. There are also lots of spots south of the stadium by the White Castle

brewcrew1000 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:43 am People will just complain about parking and traffic. I actually find it easier to park and exit out of a Cardinals or Twins game than it is at a Royals game. In St Louis, you can park easily over by 14th and Clarke and the Freeway ramp is right there. There are also lots of spots south of the stadium by the White Castle

The fat people don't realize they will likely walk just as far as they do at the sports complex. I mean really towards the back of the lot is what almost a mile to the stadium give or take. Hopefully it will be built near the street car line and you can park just about anywhere in the city.

People blame the distance because it's embarrassing to admit they suffer from fear and loathing without the certainty of a parking lot.

grovester wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:23 pm People blame the distance because it's embarrassing to admit they suffer from fear and loathing without the certainty of a parking lot.

It's true, and it's also reinforced by the revenue the team gets. So tailgating and "easy access" are hyped, but it's not like anyone is pulling up and parking right next to the K.

I'm getting repetitive in this thread, but it's because it's so hard. I think there is a really cool neighborhood to be built, but I have absolute zero faith in the Glass family or the city to not just pave over a handful of city blocks and call it a downtown stadium.

johnmatrix wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:04 pm The fat people don't realize they will likely walk just as far as they do at the sports complex. I mean really towards the back of the lot is what almost a mile to the stadium give or take. Hopefully it will be built near the street car line and you can park just about anywhere in the city.

For the absolutely busiest baseball game, the farthest parking is 0.65 miles away. The realistic farthest distance is closer to 0.35 miles, most games don't need that much parking.

The closest streetcar stop from the main Bartle Hall entrance is roughly 0.3 miles.

So utilizing parking a similar distance away is very reasonable. I do like the idea of bundling a train line expansion down Indep Ave into a new stadium in Paseo West and using the thousands of existing spots downtown. $100 million to take it partway down the corridor is nothing in terms of a stadium project.

brewcrew1000 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:43 am People will just complain about parking and traffic. I actually find it easier to park and exit out of a Cardinals or Twins game than it is at a Royals game. In St Louis, you can park easily over by 14th and Clarke and the Freeway ramp is right there. There are also lots of spots south of the stadium by the White Castle

uh, yeah, i remember the first time i left (maybe i was entering, it's been while) TSC i couldn't believe the jam-up. that's about as bad as it got after the blues parade...we have to remember that (particularity midwestern) downtowns were (overall for the worse) re-engineered around mid-century to handle a massive ingress/egress of automobiles everyday. a small stadium is nothing compared to what these systems were designed to handle.

warwickland wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:40 am

brewcrew1000 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:43 am People will just complain about parking and traffic. I actually find it easier to park and exit out of a Cardinals or Twins game than it is at a Royals game. In St Louis, you can park easily over by 14th and Clarke and the Freeway ramp is right there. There are also lots of spots south of the stadium by the White Castle

uh, yeah, i remember the first time i left (maybe i was entering, it's been while) TSC i couldn't believe the jam-up. that's about as bad as it got after the blues parade...we have to remember that (particularity midwestern) downtowns were (overall for the worse) re-engineered around mid-century to handle a massive ingress/egress of automobiles everyday. a small stadium is nothing compared to what these systems were designed to handle.

It's not designed very well to leave.

People arrive over about an hour, everyone wants to leave within 15 minutes. Downtown it's closer to an hour in the evening.

Downtown KC was designed with about a dozen ways in and out. The stadiums have three.

Downtown sends people to street lights, every stadium exit comes out to where cross traffic doesn't stop and it's mixed with pedestrians exiting and there's *one* crosswalk the entire way around the property.

The stadium should be able to handle the traffic but there's no traffic management in place.

Baseball's future: Declining attendance – and shrinking stadiums to match

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/m ... 941614001/

FangKC wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:04 pm Baseball's future: Declining attendance – and shrinking stadiums to match

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/m ... 941614001/

I remember listening to Soren Petro talking about how MLS stadiums will end up being bigger or about the same as MLB stadiums in the next generation and I think he might be right

People have been predicting the death of baseball since 1866
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/05/baseba ... -150-years

This thread is about to get way more interesting if the sale happens.

Anyone know much about the guy?

Big sports fan, life long KC guy, inergy is where the made his cash. I know someone who is lifelong friends with him but don't know much about him.

Just got confirmation that he would be a very interested in a downtown park.

oh no

TheLastGentleman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:36 pm oh no

Speak for yo self

If do move Orlando? OKC?

get out of here with that talk!

How about putting a new stadium on the KCATA property along E. 18th street?

Critical_Mass wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:30 pm get out of here with that talk!

In the other Royals thread, he said Springfield or Tulsa - so at least Orlando and OKC have Major League franchises. It's a marked improvement.

Seriously though - no reason to think a move is coming.

Even less than ever I'd this works out.