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Re: The Official Kansas City Weather Thread

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:48 am
by Roanoker
KCMax wrote: Tornados don't hit urban areas.
They also don't hit communities surrounded by mountains. I currently live in Roanoke, Virginia, nestled in a valley, completely enveloped within the Blue Ridge Mountains. I've been told the mountains help stave off tornadoes, but they are still possible.

Do you suppose the tall buildings in urban areas might have the same effect, assuming there is such an effect?

Re: The Official Kansas City Weather Thread

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:54 am
by Roanoker
KCMax wrote: Tornados don't hit urban areas.
(Humor me here. I'm on a roll.)

I don't remember the year or even the decade, but I remember some sort of weather anomaly that struck just the Plaza. It was a severe downdraft, or downspout, or something like that. I think it did substantial damage to the tennis courts. (Are they even still there? It's been a while.)

Re: The Official Kansas City Weather Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:17 am
by scooterj
KCMax wrote: Tornados don't hit urban areas.

Just to add further refutation, downtown Indianapolis was hit by a tornado last night and at least one skyscraper suffered moderate damage.

Re: The Official Kansas City Weather Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:52 am
by lock+load
scooterj wrote:
Just to add further refutation, downtown Indianapolis was hit by a tornado last night and at least one skyscraper suffered moderate damage.
See what happens when you have the final four?

Re: The Official Kansas City Weather Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:59 am
by eomaha.com
Tornadoes won't hit urban areas... that is like one of the biggest myths out there.

As big as downtown KC, St Louis, even Chicago (for example) are... they are tiny compared to the vast expanses of rural areas surrounding them.  It's simple odds... more often than not, a cornfield is going to get torn up.  And trailer homes appear to be 'magnets', simply because the winds which just tear some shingles off of a typical suburban home... will pick up and obliterate a corrugated metal mobile home.  All this said, as has been shown... there are plenty of examples where tornadoes HAVE struck downtown areas.  Anyone have a picture of that tower in Ft Worth all boarded up?  That was classic.

Re: The Official Kansas City Weather Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:28 am
by Gladstoner

Re: The Official Kansas City Weather Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:21 pm
by Highlander
eomaha.com wrote: Tornadoes won't hit urban areas... that is like one of the biggest myths out there.

As big as downtown KC, St Louis, even Chicago (for example) are... they are tiny compared to the vast expanses of rural areas surrounding them.  It's simple odds... more often than not, a cornfield is going to get torn up.  And trailer homes appear to be 'magnets', simply because the winds which just tear some shingles off of a typical suburban home... will pick up and obliterate a corrugated metal mobile home.  All this said, as has been shown... there are plenty of examples where tornadoes HAVE struck downtown areas.  Anyone have a picture of that tower in Ft Worth all boarded up?  That was classic.
Yea, I wonder where people get these ideas.....in addition to Ft. Worth some famous DT tornados include Topeka (60's; large buildings were left vacant for years afterwards), Wichita Falls, Nashville (recently), Lubbock TX and I've even seen footage of one in Miami Florida.  Tornados can and will hit just about anywhere.  I once saw a tornado aloft on a hike at about 13000' in the Sangre De Cristo mountains of Colorado.  When I was in Germany last summer, a tornado struck just east of Stuttgart where we were staying.   

Re: The Official Kansas City Weather Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:35 pm
by LenexatoKCMO
Highlander wrote: .  When I was in Germany last summer, a tornado struck just east of Stuttgart where we were staying.   
Highlander, you will appreciate this, when I was living in Britain several years ago they had a decent size tornado.  It didn't really damage much of anything but you would have thought armageddon was in progress the way the British press ran with the story. 

Re: The Official Kansas City Weather Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:49 pm
by warwickland
i dont know if anyone already said this, but a really f'n bad tornado hit st. louis in 1896:

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http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/s ... e/1896.htm

Re: The Official Kansas City Weather Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:12 pm
by eomaha.com
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Re: The Official Kansas City Weather Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:16 pm
by kard
Ft. Worth a few years back?

Re: The Official Kansas City Weather Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:31 pm
by eomaha.com
Ft. Worth yes... that first photo is the Bank One tower that eventually was almost entirely boarded up.  The good news is... if you hug those elevator shafts, it looks like there's a good chance for survival!  Assuming you're not cut to pieces by the glass.


While it didn't strike downtown... Omaha's 1975 F4 tornado held the record for the most property damage ($500M, 5,000 homes/buildings destroyed, 300 injured, incredibly only 3 dead) ... until the Oklahoma City tornado back in the 90's.

Re: The Official Kansas City Weather Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:47 pm
by scooterj
From the KC Library web site, some pics of damage from the tornado that hit downtown KC in the 1886...

Hannibal Bridge
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Jackson County Courthouse
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2nd & Main
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8th & May
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14th & Oak
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3rd Street
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Missouri Ave.
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15th & Grand
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Re: The Official Kansas City Weather Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:27 pm
by beccanator
Well, all of the Kansas City Metro falls under an area of High Risk for Severe Weather this evening....let's see what happens. I"ll be watching Katie Horner's weather updates from my "office", bicycle helmet at the ready. No seriously...

Re: The Official Kansas City Weather Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:15 pm
by scooterj
Tonganoxie Split strikes again!

Re: The Official Kansas City Weather Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:10 pm
by Sportster
Dan Henry, I'm tellin ya, he was on to sumpthin!

Sportster
...smarter than the average bear!

Re: The Official Kansas City Weather Thread

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 12:09 am
by scooterj
I saw my first tornado tonight!  :)

Also saw two funnel clouds about 15 minutes later.

Re: The Official Kansas City Weather Thread

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 12:30 am
by Gladstoner
scooterj wrote: I saw my first tornado tonight!   :)

Also saw two funnel clouds about 15 minutes later.
Whereabouts?

It looks like the supercell basically tracked along the same path as its big brother did back in 2003.

I knew we could be in trouble when Gary Lezak had a towercam view that showed the large, flanged cylindrical updraft lit up by the lightning.

I saw no rotation in the clouds, but the lightning was as intense as I've ever seen it. It was an eerie scene, with strobe-like flashes from all directions, but no thunder. The only sounds were the distant sirens. And low clouds were racing in toward the core. A brief shower marked the passage of the tip of the hook. As close as the circulation passed, I'm sure glad I didn't get to see an actual tornado tonight.

Here are images from some dude watching a neighboring storm near St. Joseph who did:

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Re: The Official Kansas City Weather Thread

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 12:24 pm
by scooterj
Gladstoner wrote: Whereabouts?

When they announced the tornado warning I did what any rational person wouldd do in a thunderstorm -- I went on the roof to have a look.  :)

After a few minutes I briefly spotted the backlit tornado as it touched town in the gneral direction of Riverside.    About 15 or 20 minutes later I saw two simultaneous funnel clouds in the general direction of thr 35/29 split.

Re: The Official Kansas City Weather Thread

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 12:42 pm
by Gladstoner
scooterj wrote: When they announced the tornado warning I did what any rational person wouldd do in a thunderstorm -- I went on the roof to have a look.  :)
That's my man!  8)

I did what any rational suburbadroid would do -- I drove up the street to get a better view.