Cordish sues Bice Bistro
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just the cafe part to the east would be for coffee.
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Dunkin Donuts would rock in the Savvy space.
I think it would be unlikely to see a Capital Grille in that space, right across from 801. And Fogo probably wouldn't do more than one location in KC. I'd still like to see more local establishments do something in that neighborhood.
trailerkid wrote: This is an awesome location. I hope they bring in a premium restaurant that will become a destination like Fogo, Cap Grill, M+S or the like...
Bice has been in limbo for like a year. Cordish was probably soliciting restaurants long before the official closure.
I think it would be unlikely to see a Capital Grille in that space, right across from 801. And Fogo probably wouldn't do more than one location in KC. I'd still like to see more local establishments do something in that neighborhood.
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Three words for former Bice space that would be a homerun: Niche Kansas City
i'm talking about the TYPE of business-- not literally moving those tenants.KC Sporting Life wrote: Dunkin Donuts would rock in the Savvy space.
I think it would be unlikely to see a Capital Grille in that space, right across from 801. And Fogo probably wouldn't do more than one location in KC. I'd still like to see more local establishments do something in that neighborhood.
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How about a second Jasper's location in the Bice location? The food is decent, it has Kansas City and midtown history and, with Bristol having success, would draw the same type of demographic.
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Funny. I actually had the same thought. Jasper's in the south suburbs is a casual establishment...what about bringing back the original, fine dining Jasper's?beautyfromashes wrote: How about a second Jasper's location in the Bice location? The food is decent, it has Kansas City and midtown history and, with Bristol having success, would draw the same type of demographic.
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Why?DaveKCMO wrote: or EBT?
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Yeah, I am sceptical that EBT could support a second location. Do they have much draw beyond their core following? I can't recall the last time I heard someone tell me they had been to EBT or were planning to go to EBT.beautyfromashes wrote: Why?
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Then you obviously don't hang out at hair salons and try to listen in on conversations over the din of 37 rows of occupied hair dryers.LenexatoKCMO wrote:I can't recall the last time I heard someone tell me they had been to EBT or were planning to go to EBT.
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I agree about a second location, but I did go there in late January and it was packed. The interior is pretty cool since they freshened up a bit with some very unique lighting fixtures hanging from the ceiling. People drop some serious cash there. It's a sit and linger kind of place, where you order after dinner drinks and make your experience a 2 and a half hour outing. Worth a visit, I just forget it's there sometimes. I'm sure the following is very much a core group that doesn't expand much every year. Besides, the whole shtick is that it contains original fixtures and items from the old Emery Bird Thayer department store. Unless they have enough to re-create that feel (or use imposter fixtures!) it would have to be a slightly different concept.LenexatoKCMO wrote: Yeah, I am sceptical that EBT could support a second location. Do they have much draw beyond their core following? I can't recall the last time I heard someone tell me they had been to EBT or were planning to go to EBT.
Funny comment, but not at ALL who goes there! You're thinking of Avenues Bistro in Brookside.mean wrote: Then you obviously don't hang out at hair salons and try to listen in on conversations over the din of 37 rows of occupied hair dryers.
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It would be macabre to have a suburban restaurant that was an epitaph to a nearly forgotton DT department store open DT. Do they have any other EBT artifacts in storage?
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How was the food? If you want to expand appeal in that market you better have noteworthy food product.PumpkinStalker wrote: I agree about a second location, but I did go there in late January and it was packed. The interior is pretty cool since they freshened up a bit with some very unique lighting fixtures hanging from the ceiling. People drop some serious cash there. It's a sit and linger kind of place, where you order after dinner drinks and make your experience a 2 and a half hour outing. Worth a visit, I just forget it's there sometimes. I'm sure the following is very much a core group that doesn't expand much every year. Besides, the whole shtick is that it contains original fixtures and items from the old Emery Bird Thayer department store. Unless they have enough to re-create that feel (or use imposter fixtures!) it would have to be a slightly different concept.
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Admittedly, I've never been to EBT. I always assumed that was the client base, due to its location and the fact that it hearkened back to a store that crowd would remember. This is also largely why I've avoided it for all these years.PumpkinStalker wrote:Funny comment, but not at ALL who goes there! You're thinking of Avenues Bistro in Brookside.
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I always got the impression they were also heavily dependent on the same prom-date/I-need-an-expensive-romantic-restaurant-to pop-the-question-and-have-no-clue clientelle that has kept Skies in business all these years.mean wrote: Admittedly, I've never been to EBT. I always assumed that was the client base, due to its location and the fact that it hearkened back to a store that crowd would remember. This is also largely why I've avoided it for all these years.
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We had 4 in our party, and I know I had a beef entree, two had fish, and not sure the fourth. I KNOW I posted about it during restaurant week but I don't see my comment anymore. Must have been lost in the transitions. I will say that service that night was absolutely one of the worst I've ever had in a restaurant of that caliber/price whatever. Our server didn't show up for almost 10 minutes and I had to go to the hostess desk to ask where he/she was. Then we got ZERO attention the rest of the night. We left about a 12% tip that night on a probably $300 tab. It was gawdawful. Too bad my write up went missing, I went into more detail than I remember now. I'd go back one more time because I don't go somewhere once and write it off, but screw it up that bad again and I'm done.
No, it's the older lawyer, I own a yacht and a bimbo with leopard print purse kind of clientell. Not blue hairs, but definitely older, just cocky and "I'm better than you" attitude. From my visit anyway.LenexatoKCMO wrote: I always got the impression they were also heavily dependent on the same prom-date/I-need-an-expensive-romantic-restaurant-to pop-the-question-and-have-no-clue clientelle that has kept Skies in business all these years.
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That's hilarious because the only time I've ever eaten there was....prom.LenexatoKCMO wrote: I always got the impression they were also heavily dependent on the same prom-date/I-need-an-expensive-romantic-restaurant-to pop-the-question-and-have-no-clue clientelle that has kept Skies in business all these years.
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Skies is still in business!?!?! &LenexatoKCMO wrote: ...that has kept Skies in business all these years.
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I get the pleasure of a company dinner there Wednesday night. Honestly not looking forward to it - the food is NOT that great.beautyfromashes wrote: Skies is still in business!?!?! &
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Understatement of the decade.PumpkinStalker wrote: the food is NOT that great.
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In its defense, Skies has been going through bad chefs like a hot knife through a terrine of foie gras. It has potential, but that potential has been almost completely ignored for the last 20 years. Last time I ate there was a little over a year ago, and it was totally underwhelming... same as every other time. Here's hoping they can finally get someone in there and make it the flagship restaurant it has always failed to be.
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