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Re: Why Can't the West Bottoms Be Redeveloped....?
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 3:53 pm
by flyingember
rxlexi wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 3:47 pm
This also furthers my frustration that there isn't a levee trail along the KS and MO, on the river side of the flood wall. Surely this can't be that difficult to make happen, connecting the Riverfront Heritage trail to the Rock Island Bridge on the river side (off-street).
why does there need to be a levy trail along the MO River when there's a trail under a block away already?
As far as I can tell, the heritage trail already connects all the way across the Kansas River and has been for years
http://mobikefed.org/2015/12/kansas-cit ... -2007-2015
Re: Why Can't the West Bottoms Be Redeveloped....?
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 3:56 pm
by GRID
Is is finally happening? KC going to start building up some urban recreation??? KC is literally behind every single city in the country on this type of stuff and I was wondering if it would ever get going there. This is a really nice project. It's a good start.
Re: Why Can't the West Bottoms Be Redeveloped....?
Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 3:30 am
by FangKC
beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:18 am
Does anyone have the pictures to the west bottoms tunnels from several years ago? I can’t seem to find them in this site.
http://kcrag.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1 ... el#p583391
Re: Why Can't the West Bottoms Be Redeveloped....?
Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 10:55 pm
by FangKC
Abernathy complex progress.
From St. Louis Avenue looking northwest.
Before:
Now:
Looking south on W.9th Street.
Re: Why Can't the West Bottoms Be Redeveloped....?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 8:26 am
by DaveKCMO
Between this project and The Yards, the Bottoms is going to have a very different vibe in a year or two with full-time legal residents. It will take a lot longer before service retail will spring up in support of so few residents.
Re: Why Can't the West Bottoms Be Redeveloped....?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:17 pm
by earthling
Has anyone tried the RideKC eBike up the 12th St. bridge? If it can handle it, seems that's the best way to connect W Bottoms to downtown for WB residents. Currently there are no Drop bike racks on map for eBikes in WB.
Re: Why Can't the West Bottoms Be Redeveloped....?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 2:04 pm
by grovester
Good connection to RM via Beardsley and Forrester.
Re: Why Can't the West Bottoms Be Redeveloped....?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 3:21 pm
by earthling
Was thinking for Consentino runs and getting access to streetcar for nightlife, but Beardsley to RM works too even if not as direct.
Could imagine a future WB neighborhood association working with RideKC for adult sized TriBikes with more powerful motors and more storage space in back for shopping. The association purchases, say 10-15 tri-bikes placed around WB that RideKC operates and they come up with a way to locate all of them back into WB each morning. Or some similar variation thereof. Could restrict to just a few downtown bike racks along streetcar, making it easier to manage.
Re: Why Can't the West Bottoms Be Redeveloped....?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 3:22 pm
by TheLastGentleman
Gondolas!
Re: Why Can't the West Bottoms Be Redeveloped....?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 9:13 pm
by DaveKCMO
earthling wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 1:17 pm
Has anyone tried the RideKC eBike up the 12th St. bridge? If it can handle it, seems that's the best way to connect W Bottoms to downtown for WB residents. Currently there are no Drop bike racks on map for eBikes in WB.
Are there ANY bike racks in the West Bottoms? If there are any in the public ROW, we can add them as a Drop "hub".
They will totally handle the viaduct, assuming there's battery left (push the black button on the frame and if the LED light is blue then it's fine, if it's green I wouldn't start that trek).
Re: Why Can't the West Bottoms Be Redeveloped....?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 9:53 pm
by normalthings
DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 9:13 pm
earthling wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 1:17 pm
Has anyone tried the RideKC eBike up the 12th St. bridge? If it can handle it, seems that's the best way to connect W Bottoms to downtown for WB residents. Currently there are no Drop bike racks on map for eBikes in WB.
Are there ANY bike racks in the West Bottoms? If there are any in the public ROW, we can add them as a Drop "hub".
They will totally handle the viaduct, assuming there's battery left (push the black button on the frame and if the LED light is blue then it's fine, if it's green I wouldn't start that trek).
That is a weird color system.
Re: Why Can't the West Bottoms Be Redeveloped....?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 10:16 pm
by DaveKCMO
normalthings wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 9:53 pm
That is a weird color system.
Indeed. One would expect green is good and red/yellow are bad.
Re: Why Can't the West Bottoms Be Redeveloped....?
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 8:44 am
by wahoowa
Re: Why Can't the West Bottoms Be Redeveloped....?
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 10:13 am
by rxlexi
why does there need to be a levy trail along the MO River when there's a trail under a block away already?
As far as I can tell, the heritage trail already connects all the way across the Kansas River and has been for years
look, I'm relatively happy with the riverfront heritage trail, and I'm happy it exists. The existing Kansas River crossing is really cool, and the portion along Berkley Park is well used. However, the central portion, where one must go up the elevator/stairs at Main St, then navigate on-street in a strange, convoluted manner down under Broadway Bridge, then along Beardsley, then between a handful of West Bottoms streets and under the viaduct in the Bottoms is sub-optimal. And I think it prevents heavier use significantly.
A straight shot from Berkley Park along the Levee, separated from traffic and next to the river would be preferable for most folks, I would assume. Many (most?) river cities already have such a trail in place. It would also connect directly to this proposed Rock Island bridge project.
Re: Why Can't the West Bottoms Be Redeveloped....?
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 11:09 am
by earthling
DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 9:13 pm
earthling wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 1:17 pm
Has anyone tried the RideKC eBike up the 12th St. bridge? If it can handle it, seems that's the best way to connect W Bottoms to downtown for WB residents. Currently there are no Drop bike racks on map for eBikes in WB.
Are there ANY bike racks in the West Bottoms? If there are any in the public ROW, we can add them as a Drop "hub".
They will totally handle the viaduct, assuming there's battery left (push the black button on the frame and if the LED light is blue then it's fine, if it's green I wouldn't start that trek).
The Bottoms could clearly benefit from eBikes given the bluff. Apt owners should put out some public accessible bike racks just to get on board.
Re: Why Can't the West Bottoms Be Redeveloped....?
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 11:11 am
by taxi
rxlexi wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:13 am
why does there need to be a levy trail along the MO River when there's a trail under a block away already?
As far as I can tell, the heritage trail already connects all the way across the Kansas River and has been for years
look, I'm relatively happy with the riverfront heritage trail, and I'm happy it exists. The existing Kansas River crossing is really cool, and the portion along Berkley Park is well used. However, the central portion, where one must go up the elevator/stairs at Main St, then navigate on-street in a strange, convoluted manner down under Broadway Bridge, then along Beardsley, then between a handful of West Bottoms streets and under the viaduct in the Bottoms is sub-optimal. And I think it prevents heavier use significantly.
A straight shot from Berkley Park along the Levee, separated from traffic and next to the river would be preferable for most folks, I would assume. Many (most?) river cities already have such a trail in place. It would also connect directly to this proposed Rock Island bridge project.
I agree. Not only is that section of the trail convoluted, it's also dangerous. Almost crazy on foot.
Re: Why Can't the West Bottoms Be Redeveloped....?
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:21 pm
by TheLastGentleman
Re: Why Can't the West Bottoms Be Redeveloped....?
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:06 pm
by shinatoo
The sheer mass of those buildings is astounding.
Re: Why Can't the West Bottoms Be Redeveloped....?
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:44 pm
by KCDowntown
TheLastGentleman wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:21 pm
Got to tour the west bottoms flats construction site
Thank you TLG! The pictures in this thread and the other are fantastic. Thanks for taking the time to put them on here.
KCDowntown
Re: Why Can't the West Bottoms Be Redeveloped....?
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:03 am
by FangKC
Did they say what they are planning to do with that narrow interior courtyard?
