KCMO Downtown Streetcar

[DaveKCMO]

POWER UP

[flyingember]

If the general idea behind this calendar is still accurate this begins six weeks of OCS systems testing.
http://www.kcstreetcar.org/wp-content/u ... he-web.jpg

So that puts that step until the very end of November/beginning of December.

To only be a month behind on a project that dealt with heavy snow, dangerous heat and longer than expected utility work is very impressive.

[normalthings]

Will there be an event for the arrival of the streetcar?

[KC_JAYHAWK]

Let's have an event when they quit ripping up the streets over and over. 11th-12th on Main is once again a pile of rubble. I'm beginning to hate this stupid streetcar.

[flyingember]

Let's have an event when they quit ripping up the streets over and over. 11th-12th on Main is once again a pile of rubble. I'm beginning to hate this stupid streetcar.

you mean the street resurfacing right? this is the final step before the road can be repainted

[DaveKCMO]

Will there be an event for the arrival of the streetcar?

yes

[DaveKCMO]

car #801 -- picking up on the numbering scheme from the previous system -- will load up today for delivery to KC.

[joshmv]

Here it comes...

https://www.facebook.com/KCStreetcar/vi ... 3/?fref=nf

[flyingember]

Stop status

Completed--
Delaware
5th/Walnut
7th NB- no shelter, just a wall
9th NB
9th SB
12th NB
14th SB
14th NB
16th SB
16th NB
19th NB
19th SB

major concrete work complete--
12th SB
Union Station- the connecting sidewalks are going in

work underway--
7th SB- the reinforcing metal for the platform is in. So it's at 2-3 weeks to go.



The stop lights at 3rd/Delaware, 16th are live
The one at 5th and Delware is blinking
Union Station and 3rd/Grand are still off


the corner work still has ~2 weeks to go. There's hardly any corner work in the past week, just one mostly completed and another started


the guide lines to repaint Main are down. Hopefully this gets done quickly because everyone has forgotten how many lanes there are already

[Eon Blue]

I was riding my bike yesterday through River Market yesterday, and as I was going west on Third from Grand the car in front of me was straddling the line between the car lane and the bike lane. At least I didn't see anyone parked in the bike lanes, this time.

I've also been wondering why they elected to put a 2' buffer in the center stripe east of Grand, rather than use the 2' buffer between the bike land and the cars parked along the north side of Third. Any cyclist riding in that lane will shy away from the parked cars for fear of being doored, so any cars in the lane to the left will encroach on the centerline when passing anyways.

[flyingember]

I've also been wondering why they elected to put a 2' buffer in the center stripe east of Grand, rather than use the 2' buffer between the bike lane and the cars parked along the north side of Third.

it was probably done to minimize jogging inward past the left turn lane. that way they got a straight lane the whole way for EB traffic

[DaveKCMO]

#801 arrived this morning. it's HUGE! in fact, it's the largest modern streetcar in the US.

[earthling]

Nice, when does testing start?

[DaveKCMO]

i'm told the vehicle may be on the street as early as early friday. this is the alignment test where they tow the vehicle to make sure everything lines up (platforms, track, etc). expect rolling street closures.

[Eon Blue]

I'm glad there are still non-center-facing seats. The motion-sickness-prone introverts of the city rejoice.

[flyingember]

in fact, it's the largest modern streetcar in the US.

Since streetcar vs light rail is confusing, let's go with manufacture designation for what a streetcar is. I can't come up with a better way given how many streetcar systems run light rail vehicles and vice versa.

Hostons's are 18 feet longer. So right now KC has the second longest.

[grovester]

in fact, it's the largest modern streetcar in the US.

Since streetcar vs light rail is confusing, let's go with manufacture designation for what a streetcar is. I can't come up with a better way given how many streetcar systems run light rail vehicles and vice versa.

Hostons's are 18 feet longer. So right now KC has the second longest.

It's been said that it is the girth that is important.

[DaveKCMO]

in fact, it's the largest modern streetcar in the US.

Since streetcar vs light rail is confusing, let's go with manufacture designation for what a streetcar is. I can't come up with a better way given how many streetcar systems run light rail vehicles and vice versa.

Hostons's are 18 feet longer. So right now KC has the second longest.

houston's vehicles are not considered modern streetcars. the industry does actually make a distinction.

[flyingember]

in fact, it's the largest modern streetcar in the US.

Since streetcar vs light rail is confusing, let's go with manufacture designation for what a streetcar is. I can't come up with a better way given how many streetcar systems run light rail vehicles and vice versa.

Hostons's are 18 feet longer. So right now KC has the second longest.

houston's vehicles are not considered modern streetcars. the industry does actually make a distinction.

Except the industry doesn't make a distinction. They blur lines.

Of 12 companies making modern articulated street running vehicles--

1x makes just streetcars (United Streetcar)- Portland, Tuscon, DC
1x makes light rail only (Kawasaki)- Philadelphia
3x make just trams (Inekon, Skoda, Vossloh)- Portland, Seattle, DC

1x makes trams and light rail as separate model lines (CAF)- KC, Houston, Cincinnati bought the tram size, Boston the LRV size

1x makes a streetcar they also call a light rail (Brookville)- Dallas, Detroit
1x makes a tram they also call a streetcar (Tig-M)
2x make a tram also called a light rail vehicle (Bombardier, Stadler)

1x makes streetcars and light rail as different lengths of the same model line (Siemens)- SLC and Houston runs the larger size, Atlanta the smaller
1x makes streetcars as a skinnier light rail vehicle (Kinkisharyo)

[taxi]

Our streetcar is so big, it has its own streetcar.