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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:45 pm
by shinatoo
got my vote, but i can't shake how small it looks and feels. like it should be Wichita's airport.

Re: We need a new airport!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:15 pm
by KCPowercat
AECOM has my vote if the 35 gate iconic version is chosen of their 4. The burns one is fine too but seems AECOM is doing more with the money...i haven't seen the other 2 proposals yet though.

I haven't been in ICT new terminal but that terminal is 272k sf. vs. these are coming in at 750k sf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wichita_D ... al_Airport

Re: We need a new airport!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:21 pm
by mean
shinatoo wrote:got my vote, but i can't shake how small it looks and feels. like it should be Wichita's airport.
Looked roughly comparable to Austin to me, which seems about right. Never been in Wichita's though.

Re: We need a new airport!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:35 pm
by KCPowercat
Austin is 660k sf. and 25 gates....so the small AECOM version.

While the small AECOM version is cheaper and may fit us currently, that doesn't seem the route to go. Money is cheaper now, let's not pigeonhole ourselves into a terminal that may require expansion plans the day it opens.

Re: We need a new airport!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:39 pm
by mister816

Re: We need a new airport!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:54 pm
by mean
KCPowercat wrote:Austin is 660k sf. and 25 gates....so the small AECOM version.

While the small AECOM version is cheaper and may fit us currently, that doesn't seem the route to go. Money is cheaper now, let's not pigeonhole ourselves into a terminal that may require expansion plans the day it opens.
Were all the AECOM versions in the video? I assumed the video was just one option that looked somewhat comparable in size to Austin to my completely untrained eye that had no idea what it was looking at. I mean, 660k vs 750k is at least more or less in the same ballpark, way closer to each other than Wichita anyway.

Re: We need a new airport!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:01 pm
by KCPowercat
yeah I'm not sure....I posted that just more because I just found the info so thought I'd share.

Agreed on it looking similar...it seems like their proposal for 25 instead of 35 gates was more just extending the ends of the terminal building...and based on the site plan the pre-security area looked smaller and not as well designed.

Re: We need a new airport!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:47 pm
by shinatoo
Liking Acoms better. The B n M one will look dated sooner and doesn't incorporate enough natural light.

Re: We need a new airport!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:23 pm
by pash
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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:40 pm
by normalthings
Does B and M's proposal also require you to go Up or Down some sort of bridge or change levels between security and the gates?

Re: We need a new airport!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:48 pm
by pash
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Re: We need a new airport!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:05 pm
by KCPowercat
The bridge makes sense I guess and it's sexy. Even without it I like that proposal better as it seems like they even have the financing more figured out.

B&m proposal is like a really really long resume

Re: We need a new airport!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:16 pm
by GRID
Wow, I love the AECOM design. I actually don't like the B&M nearly as much. It seems too 1960's or something.

Re: We need a new airport!!!

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:07 am
by shinatoo
http://media.kansascity.com/livegraphic ... CI-DVM.pdf

JLL plan. I like the linear terminal idea. Seems more feasible, but their proposal looks like I put it together. I'd like to see something more developed, especially if they are planning to turn dirt the day after the election. Also no financing plan.

Re: We need a new airport!!!

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:31 am
by flyingember
The linear design would require tearing out a bunch of other buildings and seems the most likely to offer the longest possible distances.

I don't like it for that reason.

Re: We need a new airport!!!

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:31 am
by Sani
Not that it means anything, but AECOM's video uses the airport sound effect from SimCity 2000 in the beginning of the video. I just found that amusing.

Re: We need a new airport!!!

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:22 am
by hartliss
shinatoo wrote:http://media.kansascity.com/livegraphic ... CI-DVM.pdf

JLL plan. I like the linear terminal idea. Seems more feasible, but their proposal looks like I put it together. I'd like to see something more developed, especially if they are planning to turn dirt the day after the election. Also no financing plan.
Is it just me or did the JLL plan look like a summer intern project? The PowerPoint was all sorts of font types,etc.

Re: We need a new airport!!!

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:22 am
by hartliss
GRID wrote:Wow, I love the AECOM design. I actually don't like the B&M nearly as much. It seems too 1960's or something.
I liked Aecom's as well. It will be interesting to see how the city responds and if they will go "against" the hometown team....

Re: We need a new airport!!!

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:28 am
by beautyfromashes
Go with BM. Keep the money in the city instead of shipping profits out. Will stimulate the economy more.

Re: We need a new airport!!!

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:33 am
by earthling
Like them all for various reasons, even the practical ones. Unless there is a significant benefit not to go local, go local.