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I still can't believe they're angry about funding for the World Cup. Who gives a shit, it's the World Cup in Kansas City. You don't get to be a picky asshole with that.

On Thursday, Platt said he’s disappointed that the Royals haven’t communicated their vision or needs, or even which of many proposed locations they’d prefer.

“The biggest frustration that we’re feeling is that we haven’t been given a lot of information from the Royals directly. No one really knows what the plan is. No one knows what their intentions are,” Platt said.

You know what’s funny is this the exact incompetence of their actual MLB team too so it makes sense why the team sucks when it all really falls down from the top.

Does the blue cross move put WSP back on the list of potential stadium sites?

shinatoo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:46 am Does the blue cross move put WSP back on the list of potential stadium sites?

Two land owners - City and BCBS so that's a plus. However, is it big enough...?

Cratedigger wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:50 am

shinatoo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:46 am Does the blue cross move put WSP back on the list of potential stadium sites?

Two land owners - City and BCBS so that's a plus. However, is it big enough...?

I don’t think they’re leaving their current office. They’re just expanding to another building too.

AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:02 am

Cratedigger wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:50 am

shinatoo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:46 am Does the blue cross move put WSP back on the list of potential stadium sites?

Two land owners - City and BCBS so that's a plus. However, is it big enough...?

I don’t think they’re leaving their current office. They’re just expanding to another building too.

That doesn't seem right? Why would they split up their space like that?

AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:42 am

On Thursday, Platt said he’s disappointed that the Royals haven’t communicated their vision or needs, or even which of many proposed locations they’d prefer.

“The biggest frustration that we’re feeling is that we haven’t been given a lot of information from the Royals directly. No one really knows what the plan is. No one knows what their intentions are,” Platt said.

You know what’s funny is this the exact incompetence of their actual MLB team too so it makes sense why the team sucks when it all really falls down from the top.

Why should he be disappointed? If the Royals haven't made a final decision to rehab the stadium or not, which it appears they haven't, then why make any type of commitment to move anywhere? First things first, just like the Chiefs.

aknowledgeableperson wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:46 pm

AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:42 am

On Thursday, Platt said he’s disappointed that the Royals haven’t communicated their vision or needs, or even which of many proposed locations they’d prefer.

“The biggest frustration that we’re feeling is that we haven’t been given a lot of information from the Royals directly. No one really knows what the plan is. No one knows what their intentions are,” Platt said.

You know what’s funny is this the exact incompetence of their actual MLB team too so it makes sense why the team sucks when it all really falls down from the top.

Why should he be disappointed? If the Royals haven't made a final decision to rehab the stadium or not, which it appears they haven't, then why make any type of commitment to move anywhere? First things first, just like the Chiefs.

Sources indicate the Royals and Chiefs are working on joint ballot language, and plan to put proposals before voters next Spring.

Spring vote is what I heard also.

Will be an epic failure if they ask the public to fund a new baseball stadium. I can see them asking for a funding mechanism for operational aspects similar to TSC deal. Could be smart going at the first try with the Chiefs though.

We all share the city managers frustrations about lack of transparency but I have a mildly informed opinion that is has to due with getting land bought for a reasonable amount. If you own land and John Smith calls to purchase, your price is different than when John Sherman wants it.

AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:02 am

Cratedigger wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:50 am

shinatoo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:46 am Does the blue cross move put WSP back on the list of potential stadium sites?

Two land owners - City and BCBS so that's a plus. However, is it big enough...?

I don’t think they’re leaving their current office. They’re just expanding to another building too.

Not accurate: "The 18-story building will allow Blue KC to consolidate all on-site employees into one location"

I was just going by WSP today thinking you could steal 30 feet from Grand for a stadium site and still be totally fine to accommodate traffic. Grand is insanely wide. Still easily the best site for me, they'd just have to figure out how to squeeze it in but I think those kind of constraints make for more interesting and unique stadiums.

TheBigChuckbowski wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:07 pm

AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:02 am

Cratedigger wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:50 am

Two land owners - City and BCBS so that's a plus. However, is it big enough...?

I don’t think they’re leaving their current office. They’re just expanding to another building too.

Not accurate: "The 18-story building will allow Blue KC to consolidate all on-site employees into one location"

I was just going by WSP today thinking you could steal 30 feet from Grand for a stadium site and still be totally fine to accommodate traffic. Grand is insanely wide. Still easily the best site for me, they'd just have to figure out how to squeeze it in but I think those kind of constraints make for more interesting and unique stadiums.

Got bad info from Goonies earlier in the day. Had to retract it.

I also have to say though the stadium shouldn't and won't go at that site.

Soccer Site!

normalthings wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:41 pm Soccer Site!

Now that I am down with for that site

Yeah, WSP is literarily no capable of fitting the smallest MLB stadiums. If we're going to toss out ideas, let's at least at minimum make sure they're big enough. That's one thing that can't be changed in the case of WSP.

DColeKC wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:46 pm We all share the city managers frustrations about lack of transparency but I have a mildly informed opinion that is has to due with getting land bought for a reasonable amount. If you own land and John Smith calls to purchase, your price is different than when John Sherman wants it.

Given all the talk about a downtown stadium any reasonable landowner would have in the back of his/her mind that it is for a possible stadium. Just the talk can drive up land prices.

Link2 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:55 pm
Sources indicate the Royals and Chiefs are working on joint ballot language, and plan to put proposals before voters next Spring.

Without more detail it could be for rehabbing both stadiums at TSC. BTW which voters? County? City? Both? Anyway, are the Chiefs going to have their stadium study finished by then. I know times flies but I thought the study was going to take a year and was just announced just a few months ago.

aknowledgeableperson wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 8:10 pm

Link2 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:55 pm
Sources indicate the Royals and Chiefs are working on joint ballot language, and plan to put proposals before voters next Spring.

Without more detail it could be for rehabbing both stadiums at TSC. BTW which voters? County? City? Both? Anyway, are the Chiefs going to have their stadium study finished by then. I know times flies but I thought the study was going to take a year and was just announced just a few months ago.

There’s no point in spending to rehab the Royals. You’ll just have to do it again later. A new build is more efficient.

AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:49 pm

aknowledgeableperson wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 8:10 pm

Link2 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:55 pm
Sources indicate the Royals and Chiefs are working on joint ballot language, and plan to put proposals before voters next Spring.

Without more detail it could be for rehabbing both stadiums at TSC. BTW which voters? County? City? Both? Anyway, are the Chiefs going to have their stadium study finished by then. I know times flies but I thought the study was going to take a year and was just announced just a few months ago.

There’s no point in spending to rehab the Royals. You’ll just have to do it again later. A new build is more efficient.

Even a new build will have to be rehabbed at some point in its life. And a rehab will be cheaper than a new build.
Both teams are looking at the rehab option. Definitely believe there will be a joint decision by the teams to both go for rehab or new. No way one gets new and the other a rehab, IMO.

aknowledgeableperson wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 2:17 am And a rehab will be cheaper than a new build.

not accurate.