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KCPowercat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:28 pm Health isn't a political pawn. Thank goodness he isn't relying on the restaurant biz for health guidance.

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:34 pm Maybe I should have said "shouldn't be". I don't care what anybody's political stance is, this situation should be lead by science, not how "free" vs "controlled" people seem to believe a political side is handling this pandemic that you inferred in your earlier post.

There are just some businesses that are riskier for the public health in this situation no matter what a business owner is willing to compromise. Nobody WANTS that to be the case, jeez. I think the priorities are quite clear here and the priority of a business is to make money first. I get that. It sucks that bars and restaurants spread this crap more. Those are the things I like doing the most and everyone that has to close sucks. PPP is sadly one of the only tools out there to help right now.

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:50 pm totally understand that's the businesses goal. it's also why the mayor doesn't need to be taking their advice on what is "safe" in this situation. We don't let food handlers decide what's safe enough when making food safety codes. It's a conflict.

Milling about (not seated) leads to spread, anybody that's ever stepped foot in a bar and has done research on this disease could deduce that. Same with bars at 2am. It sucks. I love both of those things. Hell I haven't been inside a restaurant since March even though "power drunk" mayor allows it because I don't think it's safe. Evenso, I trust the mayor and the health department have given it enough thought and consideration that indoor dining with spacing allows for some safety for those who decide it's safe enough for them.

I can't wait to go chill at a restaurant and not eat out of to go containers.

DColeKC wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:13 pm

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:50 pm totally understand that's the businesses goal. it's also why the mayor doesn't need to be taking their advice on what is "safe" in this situation. We don't let food handlers decide what's safe enough when making food safety codes. It's a conflict.

Milling about (not seated) leads to spread, anybody that's ever stepped foot in a bar and has done research on this disease could deduce that. Same with bars at 2am. It sucks. I love both of those things. Hell I haven't been inside a restaurant since March even though "power drunk" mayor allows it because I don't think it's safe. Evenso, I trust the mayor and the health department have given it enough thought and consideration that indoor dining with spacing allows for some safety for those who decide it's safe enough for them.

I can't wait to go chill at a restaurant and not eat out of to go containers.

We all know he's got a chub behind the podium when he's handing out more restrictions. Show me a politician who isn't a bit drunk on power and I'd be shocked.

Anyway, I wouldn't expect for the Mayor to flat out allow local business owners to completely dictate his decisions, but a compromise would be nice. For example, must be seated stays but 2am comes back.

As for how safe a properly spaced environment is. One of the head Health Department leaders and his family were at a bar/restaurant for the AFC championship game. If he feel safe, I think it's safe.

normalthings wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:17 pm

DColeKC wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:13 pm

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:50 pm totally understand that's the businesses goal. it's also why the mayor doesn't need to be taking their advice on what is "safe" in this situation. We don't let food handlers decide what's safe enough when making food safety codes. It's a conflict.

Milling about (not seated) leads to spread, anybody that's ever stepped foot in a bar and has done research on this disease could deduce that. Same with bars at 2am. It sucks. I love both of those things. Hell I haven't been inside a restaurant since March even though "power drunk" mayor allows it because I don't think it's safe. Evenso, I trust the mayor and the health department have given it enough thought and consideration that indoor dining with spacing allows for some safety for those who decide it's safe enough for them.

I can't wait to go chill at a restaurant and not eat out of to go containers.

We all know he's got a chub behind the podium when he's handing out more restrictions. Show me a politician who isn't a bit drunk on power and I'd be shocked.

Anyway, I wouldn't expect for the Mayor to flat out allow local business owners to completely dictate his decisions, but a compromise would be nice. For example, must be seated stays but 2am comes back.

As for how safe a properly spaced environment is. One of the head Health Department leaders and his family were at a bar/restaurant for the AFC championship game. If he feel safe, I think it's safe.

Is the time limit still 10pm? I think pushing that back to 12am would be reasonable post-Superbowl.

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:49 pm If I'm a business owner I'd count my blessings to be allowed to do with kcmo is even allowing.

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:49 pm If I'm a business owner I'd count my blessings to be allowed to do with kcmo is even allowing.

DColeKC wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:13 pm We all know he's got a chub behind the podium when he's handing out more restrictions. Show me a politician who isn't a bit drunk on power and I'd be shocked.

FangKC wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:23 am

DColeKC wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:13 pm We all know he's got a chub behind the podium when he's handing out more restrictions. Show me a politician who isn't a bit drunk on power and I'd be shocked.

This is just a stupid comment. Come on. Please. This demonstrates a real immaturity on your part. It really does. You should consider rethinking things before you post.

I doubt the Mayor gets some big thrill out of any of this. You are forgetting that these restrictions are imperiling the City as well because tax collections are way down. The City is going to have to make painful cuts. There are probably going to be a lot of pissed off residents. The Mayor's political fortunes could potentially be ended because of this. A big hole in the City budget, and drastic cuts in services, will be like sink-weights placed around the Mayor's neck because he's the figurehead that people will blame.

Look at Governor Gavin Newsom's approval rating right now. Do you think he's enjoying any of this? He might not get re-elected, or have any future in politics because of this pandemic. But at a certain point, any responsible public servant has to make hard decisions, and sometimes they are very unpopular.

Not all politicians and public servants are as power-mad as you think. Many are rather boring people who just want good and fair governance. Granted there always showboaters in politics, but those exist in all professions.

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:06 am Most politicians get into it to help their community. One noted exception just left power.

I don't think anybody is going to dismiss the budget shortfalls and pending cuts. It's sadly inevitable. Even if he left everything wide open, it was going to happen. People were still going to be sent home to work, private organizations weren't going to hold events on their own moral grounds, and people would stay home socially.