kcdcchef wrote:
no, i do not doubt your commitment. i am telling you you have NO WAY of knowing where you will be working in 10 years. it is just that simple. one of my board professors, was, as a matter of fact, the general managing partner of joe's stone crab, one of americas busiest restaurants, and i thought i would be working for him because of my connections, however, it did not happen. perhaps you and kcdevin should pair up, you two both seem to know where you will be working without a degree of any kind. and both in architecture of some sort. and, yes, there in good ole kc, where i got my associates, at johnson county community college, all the chefs that run the program are former chefs from the community, and are well connected through the a.c.f., and find jobs for culinary grads all the time. i did not need one, i already had 4 years at the hyatt when i graduated, however, i think it is great that you think your school scenario is unique, BUT IT IS NOT.
tropicana is only 14 years old, and toronto, is 15 years old. man, you dt stadium supporters are really shortening the lifespan of stadiums, first, it was 34 years, now, it is going to be 25 based on that math.
as far as the minor league stadiums, yeah, that is a real lucrative design market.
and again, as far as working for a design firm that basically designs stadiums, which, there are a limited amount, and the best 2 are both in kc, hntb, and hok, are you even aware of how many young, aspiring college students have the same dream, right now, as you?? every time i do an adjunct position at pennsylvania culinary institute, or get paid to give a lecture at IUP to culinary students, i always think that, and every time some busload of culinary students come see gingerbread lane, i can always spot 2 or 3 young budding culinariains that are having conversations to the tune of " yeah, someday i am just going to be building gingerbread villages, and NOTHING else, oh, definitely".
again, all of this has jack crap to do with the fact that the royals, and chiefs, are not leaving the tsc. and, you will have nothing to do with the design, unless, you have a vote in jackson county.
Now you're just coming off like a bitter old man with a slight tinge of jealousy. Before you keep trying to post your facts on here, please do some research first. Tropicana stadium was completed in March of 1990, which would make it 16 years old not 14. And its a dull, dreary, concrete enveloped mistake, which draws dead last in attendance, and if you'll read the following from ballparks.com
http://www.ballparks.com/baseball/american/tropic.htm
"The Devil Rays have not had much success at Tropicana Field, either on the field or at the box office. MLB has made it known to the team that they must be out of their current facility by 2010."
So YES, Tampa Bay will be in the market for a new stadium. As for Toronto, the Skydome opened in 1989, which would make it 17 years old, not 15 as you said. You've already posted about how it was built for 600 million, and recently sold for only 25 million, so I figured you'd already see that as a sign that it's no longer a profitable venue for the BlueJays. It's also a concrete donut design that you loathe and detest so much, and it's multipurpose function is not suitable for baseball games, like you've mentioned with Riverfront, ThreeRivers, Busch, Fulton County, Veterans, Jack Murphy, Kingdome, and the Astrodome. So YES, there's a good chance that Toronto will be in the market for a new stadium within the next 10 years.
As for minor league stadiums, Springfield just got a new one for 32 million, Charleston just got one for 23 million, Corpus Christi just got one for 27 million, I could go on and on because there are way more minor league towns than there are major league towns, so in essence the market for minor league stadiums is far more lucritive than major league markets.
HOK Sport Venue Event, HTNB, 360, Ellerbe Beckett, all design alot more structures than just ballparks. They won't go out of business if every MLB town and NFL town has a new stadium.
Chef, please come correct with your stats, because with blatantly wrong stats and facts, your opinions hold no weight. And getting schooled on your wrong facts by a college kid that apparently has no future isn't doing much for your credibility.