Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:30 am
Is this the final product...?!?
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OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)
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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:14 am
It's better than the Baltimore side sadly.
Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:06 am
Wow...that's just nasty...
Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:29 am
Why is it so hard to make a parking garage look nice?
Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:44 pm
Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:57 pm
Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:00 pm
"Wait for the landscaping!" 
Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:39 pm
Building code requirements coupled with high costs for air handling systems. Code stipulates a certain amount of fresh air moving through the garage at all times, ergo you're limited in how much you can cover up. Fire protection requirements can hinder the materials/assemblies you can use even further.
Unless the city is going to adopt (and people hold them to it) more stringent local codes for garage design, we all should expect a lot more of this as the core starts to infill.
Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:00 am
What’s one good example of a nicely done parking garage in KC?
Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:13 am
The ones underground are perfect.
Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:17 am
Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:03 am
I almost said, besides being underground. I’d like to know the price difference between above and below ground parking garage construction. I’m sure it’s massive.
Not to mention, we would have several 15-16 floor buildings if it weren’t for parking garage pedestals.
Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:09 am
I'm not much of a size queen, I don't care if buildings are a little shorter if the ground level - level 5 is improved.
Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:49 am
Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:21 pm
The Kauffman Center garage was 47 million in 2007 which adjusted for inflation is $58 million today
It has 1000 spots
$58k per
Barney Allis Plaza is planned to be $408 spaces fopr $30 million.
That's $73.5k per
The failed city garage along Broadway was going to be 500 spaces for $21 million
https://cityscenekc.com/public-garage-p ... e-council/
For $42k per spot.
So a better estimate would be 40k above ground, 80k below ground.
I would guess 25/50k is 20 years ago.
It has 1000 spots
$58k per
Barney Allis Plaza is planned to be $408 spaces fopr $30 million.
That's $73.5k per
The failed city garage along Broadway was going to be 500 spaces for $21 million
https://cityscenekc.com/public-garage-p ... e-council/
For $42k per spot.
So a better estimate would be 40k above ground, 80k below ground.
I would guess 25/50k is 20 years ago.
Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:48 pm
The southern facing facade has an image displayed on it this evening. I can’t tell if it’s just room lights or something more like the Marriott.
Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:31 pm
Yikes! https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/busi ... d=tw-share
The problem is cropping up across the nation. Many cities fully or partly finance the construction and operation of convention hotels to compete for events, often by using bonds backed by the hotel’s income, as well as revenue from hospitality and tourism taxes. Noting the collapse in conferences and forecasting a U.S. recession, S&P Global Ratings recently warned that it could lower the ratings of bonds supporting existing convention hotels in Denver and Austin, Texas. It also downgraded the rating of bonds backing Baltimore’s convention hotel.
Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:05 am
I thought KC was the only city that did this and all the other cities were just attractive cities to which developers flocked? &&&
Re: New Convention Hotel
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:52 pm
^^^many years ago.FangKC wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:49 am I wonder what the market would be in Kansas City for a mixed-use hotel with apartments that offered concierge services and things like room-service and housekeeping to apartment residents from the hotel? I know in some bigger cities there are people that live in hotels permanently for this reason.
I remember we used to have discussions on the benefit of (then) KC Convention Hotel Developers adding residential floors to the structure to help stabilize revenues during down turns. I think what we are going through now helps underscore the benefit mixed uses has.
Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:20 pm
KCPowercat wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:06 pm Couldn't even screen the entire parking garage. Half assed through and through on this project.
