KCRag Forum

DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:41 pm KC doesn't need larger vehicles. It needs more coverage. Sprawling metro with a skeletal system. The trench is a massive investment for little gain. Transfers can work, but most agencies don't design them well or the connecting route isn't frequent enough (see NY subway, which has high frequency and LOTS of transfers on an antiquated jumble of routes). We see a lot of transfer activity in KC when two frequent routes connect (31st & Prospect is one example).

DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:41 pmThe trench is a massive investment for little gain.

kas1 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:00 pm

DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:41 pmThe trench is a massive investment for little gain.

How much of the cost of the old proposal was due to trench issues? If you're running a tunnel north-south through downtown then the trains could enter that tunnel from the north end rather than the south. For that matter you could have through-running as trains from the west pass through Union Station and then enter the tunnel and come out the other end and run to some other endpoint.

I know very little about the issues of acquiring access to the various sets of tracks so I don't know if I'm just wasting time even writing about this, but I wanted to throw in my 2 cents on how commuter rail could be done in a way that's not worse than the no-build alternative.

AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:46 pm

DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:41 pm KC doesn't need larger vehicles. It needs more coverage. Sprawling metro with a skeletal system. The trench is a massive investment for little gain. Transfers can work, but most agencies don't design them well or the connecting route isn't frequent enough (see NY subway, which has high frequency and LOTS of transfers on an antiquated jumble of routes). We see a lot of transfer activity in KC when two frequent routes connect (31st & Prospect is one example).

Do you think transfers from Union Station rail to streetcar would work well?

DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:43 pm

AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:46 pm

DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:41 pm KC doesn't need larger vehicles. It needs more coverage. Sprawling metro with a skeletal system. The trench is a massive investment for little gain. Transfers can work, but most agencies don't design them well or the connecting route isn't frequent enough (see NY subway, which has high frequency and LOTS of transfers on an antiquated jumble of routes). We see a lot of transfer activity in KC when two frequent routes connect (31st & Prospect is one example).

Do you think transfers from Union Station rail to streetcar would work well?

Depends on the frequency of both.

normalthings wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:43 pm Timeline for OneRideKC update?

AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:15 pm Side question- does anyone know when the streetcar is gonna get back to its old hours..especially for the weekend?

daGOAT wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:28 am Did anybody go to the Complete Streets open house yesterday?

normalthings wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:36 am oneridekc domain expired

DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:04 pm

normalthings wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:36 am oneridekc domain expired

Welcome to my world.

alejandro46 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:04 am This may be old news, but I saw it today and I don't think it got many headlines likie the 71 Corridor Study did. Looks like a State Avenue - Independence Ave MAX type service is in the cards. Current route takes an hour and 51 minutes along with a 3 block walk to transfer.

https://www.transportation.gov/sites/do ... eets_0.pdf

BI-STATE SUSTAINABLE REINVESTMENT CORRIDOR
RAISE AWARD AMOUNT: $5,600,000
APPLICANT: MID-AMERICA REGIONAL COUNCIL
STATE: MISSOURI
URBAN
Project Description: This planning project will fund planning activities for an east-west high- capacity transit
corridor from Village West in Wyandotte County, Kansas through downtown Kansas City, Missouri to
Independence, Missouri. The project will complete project development and environmental documentation for
zero-emission transportation elements, and advance engineering design for one or more high-capacity transit
routes.
Project Benefits: Through the incorporation of zero emission transportation options, the project will reduce
emissions and enhance public transportation, improve walkability, and improve bicycle infrastructure. It will also
improve regional connectivity to economic opportunities in disadvantaged communities, including workforce
training.