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Re: Wizards could ditch Bannister site in favor of Wyandotte County

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:04 pm
by kcmetro
KCPowercat wrote: metro...you appear to be completely ignorant to anything outside of joco or older than 5 years when it comes to this metro area.
I just like throwing the bait out there for you to chew on.

Re: Wizards could ditch Bannister site in favor of Wyandotte County

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:30 pm
by GRID
KCPowercat wrote: yeah let boston have more to ddo the same thing...why should kc get greenspace?  F'ing insane.
Guess, I'm envisioning more of a row of tiny concrete skate parks than usable green space.  In order to make that a true, usable green corridor, they would need to remove most of the new bridges they just built.

I just see so many other priorities and I'm not sold that it's this or nothing.  It's this because KCMO doesn't know what they are doing.  KCMO should be aggressively pushing for a pedestrian bridge connecting KCMO to NKC or something like that.  Just don't see how covering up a bunch of holes on 670 does anything, especially for 200 million and if they are estimating it today at 200 million, it will be 250-300 before it starts and 300-400 before it's finished.

Now the North Loop?

That's a whole different animal.  It would probably be worth every penny to cap the north loop.  You would gain all kinds of green space just by building retaining walls, let alone capping it because of all the land the sloping hillsides take up along the highway and the fact that the gaps between the bridges are much larger giving you more room there as well.  You would actually remove a massive scar in the center of Downtown.  You barley know 670 is there on the south side.

Re: Wizards could ditch Bannister site in favor of Wyandotte County

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:00 pm
by LenexatoKCMO
GRID wrote: Guess, I'm envisioning more of a row of tiny concrete skate parks than usable green space.  In order to make that a true, usable green corridor, they would need to remove most of the new bridges they just built.
Those weren't builds - they were temporary rebuilds because they were afraid the sidewalks were going to fall off.  Most all of those bridges are scheduled for replacement in the next five years.  Hence the timliness - the bridges are all due for MoDot replacement and we will be ripe for conning MoDot out of money along with the feds. 

Re: Wizards could ditch Bannister site in favor of Wyandotte County

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:06 pm
by kcjak
Forgive me if this is listed already somewhere in this thread - I couldn't find the info.  What is the estimated cost of just replacing the bridges with no cap?

Re: Wizards could ditch Bannister site in favor of Wyandotte County

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:13 pm
by grovester
kcjak wrote: Forgive me if this is listed already somewhere in this thread - I couldn't find the info.  What is the estimated cost of just replacing the bridges with no cap?
10 million

Re: Wizards could ditch Bannister site in favor of Wyandotte County

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:22 pm
by GRID
LenexatoKCMO wrote: Those weren't builds - they were temporary rebuilds because they were afraid the sidewalks were going to fall off.  Most all of those bridges are scheduled for replacement in the next five years.  Hence the timliness - the bridges are all due for MoDot replacement and we will be ripe for conning MoDot out of money along with the feds.  
Oak, Locust and Wyandotte are new bridges.

Re: Wizards could ditch Bannister site in favor of Wyandotte County

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:41 pm
by LenexatoKCMO
GRID wrote: Oak, Locust and Wyandotte are new bridges.
Yeah and I don't think any of those are affected - I don't think they are  going to ramp it up the giant elevation increase to wyandotte. and it is supposed to end at Oak.  Baltimore, Walnut, Main, Grand all have to be replaced one way or the other.  

Re: Wizards could ditch Bannister site in favor of Wyandotte County

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:58 pm
by FangKC
Why do we need a pedestrian bridge from KCMO to NKC?

Re: Wizards could ditch Bannister site in favor of Wyandotte County

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:06 pm
by aknowledgeableperson
To visit Harlem.

Re: Wizards could ditch Bannister site in favor of Wyandotte County

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:11 pm
by ShowME
I love it.  Your Governor is talking about raising taxes while you'll be giving additional tax breaks to crap like the Wizards.  Your state would offer Star bonds for a new TG&Y if they were still around.

Re: Wizards could ditch Bannister site in favor of Wyandotte County

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:09 pm
by NDTeve
ShowME wrote: I love it.  Your Governor is talking about raising taxes while you'll be giving additional tax breaks to crap like the Wizards.  Your state would offer Star bonds for a new TG&Y if they were still around.
Saying you didn't want them?

Re: Wizards could ditch Bannister site in favor of Wyandotte County

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:24 pm
by mudjack
ShowME wrote: I love it.  Your Governor is talking about raising taxes while you'll be giving additional tax breaks to crap like the Wizards.  Your state would offer Star bonds for a new TG&Y if they were still around.
Missouri also has budget woes and we're subsidizing the Chiefs, the Royals, the nearly empty Kemper arena.....

Re: Wizards could ditch Bannister site in favor of Wyandotte County

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:57 pm
by DaveKCMO
mudjack wrote: Missouri also has budget woes and we're subsidizing the Chiefs, the Royals, the nearly empty Kemper arena.....
yeah, let kansas bury themselves in pro sports subsidies for once. the wizards are still in the metro.

Re: Wizards could ditch Bannister site in favor of Wyandotte County

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:03 pm
by Highlander
DaveKCMO wrote: yeah, let kansas bury themselves in pro sports subsidies for once. the wizards are still in the metro.
Fine with me as long as no KC Missouri corporations are along for the ride. 

Re: Wizards could ditch Bannister site in favor of Wyandotte County

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:05 pm
by KCMax
Wizards to start work next week on KCK soccer stadium
There?s still no formal development agreement, but Wizards president Robb Heineman said: ?You?ll begin to see yellow machines on site ? moving dirt, at our expense.?

Re: Wizards could ditch Bannister site in favor of Wyandotte County

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:16 pm
by bobbyhawks
http://www.hillcrestroadblog.com/2009/1 ... -site.html

and

http://www.hillcrestroadblog.com/2009/1 ... lickr.html

Wonder if they will change the name of the blog now that it isn't going to be on Hillcrest Road.  While I didn't want to see the stadium built so far away from downtown (in both KS and MO), is there any chance this could get people interested in a Wizards stadium to Truman Sports Complex rail line?  I know its not likely, but a brother can dream...

Re: Wizards could ditch Bannister site in favor of Wyandotte County

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:25 pm
by mudjack
I was just wondering about the possibility of a football to futbol run.

Re: Wizards could ditch Bannister site in favor of Wyandotte County

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:33 pm
by TheSmokinPun
The main thing I'm depressed about other than the moving of the stadium site is the fact that Hillcrest Road actually was a cool, European-esque stadium name. Now the stadium will most likely be named Cerner Stadium, bleh.

Re: Wizards could ditch Bannister site in favor of Wyandotte County

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:14 pm
by shinatoo
"Field in a field"

"Parallel Park" No JoCo would dare come near that.

"Wrong State Ave."

Re: Wizards could ditch Bannister site in favor of Wyandotte County

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:43 pm
by bbqboy
If you build it, they will come..... :cheers: