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Re: Is Midtown Marketplace one of the city's greatest blunders?

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:56 am
by Riverite
Does anyone have pictures of what the area looked like before?

Re: Is Midtown Marketplace one of the city's greatest blunders?

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:21 am
by FangKC
That area was called Warner Plaza before.

https://kchistory.org/islandora/search/ ... pe=edismax

Re: Is Midtown Marketplace one of the city's greatest blunders?

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:42 am
by Riverite
FangKC wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:21 am That area was called Warner Plaza before.

https://kchistory.org/islandora/search/ ... pe=edismax
Thanks I appreciate that, just realized I'd only heard about it never seen it. So tragic.

Re: Is Midtown Marketplace one of the city's greatest blunders?

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:32 pm
by FangKC

Re: Is Midtown Marketplace one of the city's greatest blunders?

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:42 pm
by FangKC

Re: Is Midtown Marketplace one of the city's greatest blunders?

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 1:47 pm
by langosta
How do I delete someone else’s comment

Re: Is Midtown Marketplace one of the city's greatest blunders?

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 1:49 pm
by Riverite
langosta wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 1:47 pm How do I delete someone else’s comment
I consistently feel that with anything goonies posts

Re: Is Midtown Marketplace one of the city's greatest blunders?

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:29 pm
by chaglang
Costco is great. Ditto Home Depot. Some of the tax revenue goes to a home improvement fund that has done a ton of good work in the surrounding neighborhoods.

The land use is bloated and sucks. I wish we had the apartments and small stores that were torn down. But the Costco and HD are undeniably assets. All that can be true.

Re: Is Midtown Marketplace one of the city's greatest blunders?

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:32 pm
by Riverite
No one is even arguing that they are bad stores, just posting pictures of what use to be there. What an absolutely ridiculous discussion.

Re: Is Midtown Marketplace one of the city's greatest blunders?

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:34 pm
by chaglang
Forget it, Jake. It's the internet.

Re: Is Midtown Marketplace one of the city's greatest blunders?

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:45 pm
by missingkc
I was in Milton's once. Nice memory. Does anyone else remember his daily ad in the Star classifieds? "I'm not mad at anyone. Come back to Milton's on Main."
Saw 'I Am Curious Blue' At the Kimo.

Re: Is Midtown Marketplace one of the city's greatest blunders?

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:01 am
by FangKC
alejandro46 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:32 pm Right next to a dispensary...
Is this the dispensary?

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0682863 ... 384!8i8192

Re: Is Midtown Marketplace one of the city's greatest blunders?

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:05 am
by FangKC
normalthings wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:25 pm Dunkin Donuts going in on Linwood.
Is this where the Dunkin Donuts in going?

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0682435 ... 84!8i8192

Re: Is Midtown Marketplace one of the city's greatest blunders?

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:49 pm
by KCtoBrooklyn
Yes, that's the dispensary. Looks like it is getting close to opening.

I believe the Dunkin was planned for the lot just to the east of Taco Bell. I am not certain if it is still moving forward.

Re: Is Midtown Marketplace one of the city's greatest blunders?

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:48 am
by DaveKCMO
Offensive comments deleted.

Re: Is Midtown Marketplace one of the city's greatest blunders?

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:03 pm
by normalthings
Goonies wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:50 pm
chaglang wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:29 pm Costco is great. Ditto Home Depot. Some of the tax revenue goes to a home improvement fund that has done a ton of good work in the surrounding neighborhoods.

The land use is bloated and sucks. I wish we had the apartments and small stores that were torn down. But the Costco and HD are undeniably assets. All that can be true.
I'd like to see some of that land become a stop for the street car. Eventually it will go east and going down Linwood would seem to be the play.
There was an alternative to split at Union Station and take Gillham South before heading east.

Re: Is Midtown Marketplace one of the city's greatest blunders?

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:53 am
by kenrbnj
When constructed in the late 1990's; the Midtown Marketplace was considered a "intensive redevelopment" to an area harboring an immense perception problem.

Yes, today M.M appears to be a skin graft of North Antioch, Gladstone onto South Main, KCMO.

That is an illustrative point: It is my belief the "skywalk" system of Crown Center was to insulate suburban visitors from the "wild west" of the street.

Re: Is Midtown Marketplace one of the city's greatest blunders?

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:39 am
by alejandro46
My problem isn't with Costco or Home Depot. I love shopping at Costco.

The problem is the huge ass surface parking lot. At the time, there was minimal forethought beyond just getting development in the core. If we had to re-do, the developers should have structured parking along with mixed uses in this parcel to densify and urbanize the area. Agreed with Kenrbnj, it's a lazy development that could belong in any suburb in KC or the US.

Re: Is Midtown Marketplace one of the city's greatest blunders?

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:44 am
by flyingember
alejandro46 wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:39 am My problem isn't with Costco or Home Depot. I love shopping at Costco.

The problem is the huge ass surface parking lot. At the time, there was minimal forethought beyond just getting development in the core. If we had to re-do, the developers should have structured parking along with mixed uses in this parcel to densify and urbanize the area. Agreed with Kenrbnj, it's a lazy development that could belong in any suburb in KC or the US.
What gets me is Costco doesn't have an entrance on the NE corner. It's not like the idea of multiple entrances was brand new at the time.

It requires everyone to walk around the building and enter from the parking lot side.

Re: Is Midtown Marketplace one of the city's greatest blunders?

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:48 am
by earthling
alejandro46 wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:39 am My problem isn't with Costco or Home Depot. I love shopping at Costco.

The problem is the huge ass surface parking lot. At the time, there was minimal forethought beyond just getting development in the core. If we had to re-do, the developers should have structured parking along with mixed uses in this parcel to densify and urbanize the area. Agreed with Kenrbnj, it's a lazy development that could belong in any suburb in KC or the US.
Don't have an issue with these at all but the pad sites surrounding these need to be redeveloped into sidewalk front commercial properties with housing on top. Would hide the big box stores while we benefit from them. I suspect it's just a matter of time. Proper redevelopment wouldn't happen w/out streetcar presence.