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Re: OFFICIAL - Embassy Suites (former Federal Reserve)
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:05 am
by smh
There were two workers on site this morning shrugging their shoulders a bit. I was excited thinking maybe work was picking back up. Alas, then I saw this post!
Can further confirm this fell off and has caused consternation at nearby businesses.
Re: OFFICIAL - Embassy Suites (former Federal Reserve)
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:19 pm
by Midtownkid
Good thing it didn't happen during the parade! Also, looks like a flat panel section. that will be easier to replace at least
Re: OFFICIAL - Embassy Suites (former Federal Reserve)
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:02 pm
by KCDowntown
An amendment to the TIF for this project is on tomorrow's TIF docket...
The text mentions that the underground data center in the original plan will instead be a 40,000 sqft "family entertainment center", this change and the rehab of the adjacent garage comprise the amendment to the original TIF. It is also noted that the 24 room boutique hotel in the small building to the north is no longer part of the plan.
KCDowntown
Re: OFFICIAL - Embassy Suites (former Federal Reserve)
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:23 pm
by normalthings
http://cityclerk.kcmo.org/LiveWeb/Docum ... NwbjqaCDmw
Modified Incentives Plan has been introduced to the city council. I have doubts that revenue bonds for a hotel project will pass in the current environment.
Re: OFFICIAL - Embassy Suites (former Federal Reserve)
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:07 pm
by TheLastGentleman
This building is cursed.
Re: OFFICIAL - Embassy Suites (former Federal Reserve)
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:43 am
by WoodDraw
I have no inside information, but something must have happened?
They started construction months ago, and then stopped. And before that they sat on the property for awhile and did no upkeep.
My only assumption is that they're having serious financial difficulties and want more help.
Would not put this developer at the top of my list because they've been complete shit through the entire process, even though I'd love progress here. Very torn.
Re: OFFICIAL - Embassy Suites (former Federal Reserve)
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:05 am
by dukuboy1
I think it's a combo of a bad developer and the mother of all shit storms with the pandemic taking square aim on the hotel/travel/dining/entertainment industries. To completely shut down a major segment of the economy to 0% is staggering. I hope they can weather through it to get something built there.
But overall we know that once it is over those industries will bounce back, might be slow from some to ramp up but they will be back. If anything we may see a flood of events & travel in the warmer months as people look at the calendar and prepare to be social distancing again starting in Nov. Not as strict (IMO) but people will look and plan ahead. Hopefully I'm wrong and will have better treatment options by then and closer than every to a vaccine.
Re: OFFICIAL - Embassy Suites (former Federal Reserve)
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:04 pm
by WoodDraw
dukuboy1 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:05 am
I think it's a combo of a bad developer and the mother of all shit storms with the pandemic taking square aim on the hotel/travel/dining/entertainment industries. To completely shut down a major segment of the economy to 0% is staggering. I hope they can weather through it to get something built there.
But overall we know that once it is over those industries will bounce back, might be slow from some to ramp up but they will be back. If anything we may see a flood of events & travel in the warmer months as people look at the calendar and prepare to be social distancing again starting in Nov. Not as strict (IMO) but people will look and plan ahead. Hopefully I'm wrong and will have better treatment options by then and closer than every to a vaccine.
This project shut down way before the pandemic.
Re: OFFICIAL - Embassy Suites (former Federal Reserve)
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:15 pm
by dukuboy1
it was a mess before for sure, and pandemic was the final straw. Hopefully the developer will either get it together or turn it over to someone else. Obviously they are not the best fit for this project
Re: OFFICIAL - Embassy Suites (former Federal Reserve)
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:04 pm
by normalthings
Convert it to condo !
Re: OFFICIAL - Embassy Suites (former Federal Reserve)
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:17 pm
by beautyfromashes
normalthings wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:04 pm
Convert it to condo !
No parking and our city still has a stupid minimum spaces requirement.
Re: OFFICIAL - Embassy Suites (former Federal Reserve)
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:30 pm
by TheLastGentleman
beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:17 pm
normalthings wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:04 pm
Convert it to condo !
No parking and our city still has a stupid minimum spaces requirement.
It has a big garage though.
Re: OFFICIAL - Embassy Suites (former Federal Reserve)
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 2:30 pm
by WoodDraw
TheLastGentleman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:30 pm
beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:17 pm
normalthings wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:04 pm
Convert it to condo !
No parking and our city still has a stupid minimum spaces requirement.
It has a big garage though.
I think a lot of them are leased out already. But there is a big surface lot next door to it. I can't remember who owns it, but it shouldn't be hard to build parking around here if it's really needed.
Re: OFFICIAL - Embassy Suites (former Federal Reserve)
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 4:11 pm
by flyingember
WoodDraw wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 2:30 pm
TheLastGentleman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:30 pm
beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:17 pm
No parking and our city still has a stupid minimum spaces requirement.
It has a big garage though.
I think a lot of them are leased out already. But there is a big surface lot next door to it. I can't remember who owns it, but it shouldn't be hard to build parking around here if it's really needed.
to the south of the building? UMB has part, I think the city has another part.
Re: OFFICIAL - Embassy Suites (former Federal Reserve)
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:47 pm
by DaveKCMO
beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:17 pm
normalthings wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:04 pm
Convert it to condo !
No parking and our city still has a stupid minimum spaces requirement.
Not in the loop.
If it can be a hotel, it can be multifamily.
Re: OFFICIAL - Embassy Suites (former Federal Reserve)
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:46 pm
by FangKC
I think between the garage (460 spaces), the surface lot (50 spaces) on the SW corner of 9th and McGee, and the small lot (14 spaces) facing Grand, there are 524 parking spaces that are all controlled by the developer.
I can't imagine that there would be the need for that many spaces for multifamily. How many apartments could be fit into that building, and the adjacent, smaller building on Grand?
https://www.kansascityfed.org/aboutus/h ... meline.cfm
Re: OFFICIAL - Embassy Suites (former Federal Reserve)
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:50 am
by beautyfromashes
DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:47 pm
Not in the loop.
If it can be a hotel, it can be multifamily.
Really?! Is this new?
Re: OFFICIAL - Embassy Suites (former Federal Reserve)
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:23 am
by flyingember
beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:50 am
DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:47 pm
Not in the loop.
If it can be a hotel, it can be multifamily.
Really?! Is this new?
a lot of the recent minimums changes are 2012+. For example, the streetcar TDD was in/around this year.
There's a whole bunch of no minimum rules in place to the point is looks like most of KCMO in the pre-1951 city doesn't have minimums
Inside the loop
DC zoning
entire downtown streetcar area
Brookside business district
at a historic landmark or in a historic district
Below a certain size near a rapid transit stop
below a certain size in the crossroads
a single family or duplex on a lot platted before Sep 10, 1951
Re: OFFICIAL - Embassy Suites (former Federal Reserve)
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 2:02 pm
by DaveKCMO
beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:50 am
DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:47 pm
Not in the loop.
If it can be a hotel, it can be multifamily.
Really?! Is this new?
The downtown loop elimination of parking minimums predates the streetcar. I think it was put in place either in the zoning rewrite (2007) or shortly afterwards. Crossroads and River Market were done in tandem with streetcar. The "within 500 feet of a transit stop" provision was also done in the zoning rewrite (but to date I don't know of any project to take advantage that wasn't already grandfathered for other reasons like historic property).
Re: OFFICIAL - Embassy Suites (former Federal Reserve)
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:41 pm
by beautyfromashes
DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2020 2:02 pm
The downtown loop elimination of parking minimums predates the streetcar. I think it was put in place either in the zoning rewrite (2007) or shortly afterwards. Crossroads and River Market were done in tandem with streetcar. The "within 500 feet of a transit stop" provision was also done in the zoning rewrite (but to date I don't know of any project to take advantage that wasn't already grandfathered for other reasons like historic property).
And I suppose the 500 feet of a transit stop only counts for in the DT area or all bus stops as well? If only streetcar stops, I assume this would expand with the extension, correct?
