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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:06 pm
by alejandro46
KCPowercat wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:45 am
Fare collection system?
Perhaps it is just included for future use. Later on the report notes:
• Regarding growth in operating revenue assumptions, sales and property tax
revenues are reasonable compared to recent historical experience. The financial
plan assumes no fare revenue because the streetcar system will be free to ride.
Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:49 pm
by DaveKCMO
https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/a ... 19164.html
https://www.kcur.org/post/kansas-city-s ... y#stream/0
http://kcstreetcar.org/main-st-extensio ... ta-rating/
Washington transit officials have rated the Kansas City Streetcar Authority’s $151.6 million federal funding application “medium high,” a vital step toward building the planned extension from downtown to UMKC.
Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:26 am
by DaveKCMO
Ahead of streetcar line, PIEA looks to draft affordable Midtown housing plan
https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... posal.html
Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:28 pm
by normalthings
Center running streetcar would have allowed us to host streetcar jousting matches. Just wanted to put that out there.
Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:33 pm
by TheLastGentleman
Bring back blood sport
Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:37 pm
by KCtoBrooklyn
American Century is looking for a tax abatement on renovations (both at their twin towers and the former H&R Block space). They are planning on adding 75 jobs over the next two years.
I wonder if they will ever do anything with all of their lots.
Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:16 am
by normalthings
Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:54 pm
by DaveKCMO
I tried such a thing awhile back. It's a tough walk for most -- 3.5 miles -- and not particularly pleasant. Also, nothing to see yet. Maybe in 2021...
Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:02 am
by kcjak
I heard on the radio that the extension wasn't selected to receive federal funds this round. What are next steps?
Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:26 am
by DaveKCMO
kcjak wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:02 am
I heard on the radio that the extension wasn't selected to receive federal funds this round. What are next steps?
Wait until next year, or a direct appropriation from Congress (previously known as an earmark). FY20 appropriations are in progress now.
Unlike TIGER, if you don't get funded in one round you don't have to reapply. We're in the pipeline and have a good rating, so it's just a matter of time. Worst case scenario IMO is after Trump leaves office. This year's list of new projects is all BRT.
Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:29 am
by KCPowercat
So we are delayed past 2023 now?
Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:45 am
by smh
DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:26 am
kcjak wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:02 am
I heard on the radio that the extension wasn't selected to receive federal funds this round. What are next steps?
Wait until next year, or a direct appropriation from Congress (previously known as an earmark). FY20 appropriations are in progress now.
Unlike TIGER, if you don't get funded in one round you don't have to reapply. We're in the pipeline and have a good rating, so it's just a matter of time. Worst case scenario IMO is after Trump leaves office. This year's list of new projects is all BRT.
Any chance Roy comes through on this for us?
Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:52 am
by alejandro46
Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:57 am
by KCPowercat
Smartkc
Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:58 am
by nickyrosstheboss
Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:16 am
by WoodDraw
This seems like a pretty bad outcome to me. Delayed to the point where we really can't predict transportation trends.
Mixed streetcar is awful to begin with. I think it's getting harder to defend this project.
Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:20 am
by kcjak
It's amazing the variation in costs of BRT:
$40+million for new 1.8 mile BRT (plus upgrades to existing line) in Reno
$53+million for new 5.8 mile BRT in Spokane
$26+million for new 16 mile BRT in Albany
Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:24 am
by KCPowercat
WoodDraw wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:16 am
This seems like a pretty bad outcome to me. Delayed to the point where we really can't predict transportation trends.
Mixed streetcar is awful to begin with. I think it's getting harder to defend this project.
Quite dramatic
Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:36 am
by smh
*whispers*
maybe now is the time to have a second look at center-running in a dedicated lane
Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:41 am
by beautyfromashes
Keep fighting for next year! Is there work that we can continue with other money sources that would make for a more quick build when we do get approval?
