Capping the Loop

[DaveKCMO]

New renders won't show road closures (at the direction of the city) until a traffic study is completed.

[Cratedigger]

To Dave’s point there is now an official design that preserves the street grid. It’s basically option B but with walnut connecting through the park.

[TheUrbanRoo]

The more I've been thinking about it, they've got to take advantage of that terrace and do something with it. At first it was looking good, then on the new renderings it's basically the same as the rest of the park except it's on a slope. So uncreative. They had it right the first time.

[smh]

How long do we have to wait to see the new renderings?

[Cratedigger]

How long do we have to wait to see the new renderings?

Probably late summer/September

[DaveKCMO]

Here's a preview: https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... osure.html

[GRID]

The more I've been thinking about it, they've got to take advantage of that terrace and do something with it. At first it was looking good, then on the new renderings it's basically the same as the rest of the park except it's on a slope. So uncreative. They had it right the first time.

Yeah. If they waste that elevation change, this will such a lost opportunity.

[KCPowercat]

The more I've been thinking about it, they've got to take advantage of that terrace and do something with it. At first it was looking good, then on the new renderings it's basically the same as the rest of the park except it's on a slope. So uncreative. They had it right the first time.

Yeah. If they waste that elevation change, this will such a lost opportunity.

Agreed. That's the big differentiator here.

Look forward to what the traffic study says as I'm actually open to some closures to make a better park experience. If it doesn't include frequent Grand closures though it's worthless.

[moderne]

Would like to see a large oversized colorful sculpture on or in front of the slope. I say colorful because chrome or stainless would just blend into the already built environment. Something that would make a statement and a sense of place.

[dukuboy1]

let's just get the damn thing done. all open through streets fine by me. Whatever is built their will be complaints. But in the end it will be a great project and help to continue to transform downtown & connect it more seamlessly to the Crossroads and points South.

[beautyfromashes]

let's just get the damn thing done. all open through streets fine by me. Whatever is built their will be complaints. But in the end it will be a great project and help to continue to transform downtown & connect it more seamlessly to the Crossroads and points South.

It's kind of funny, your response to the slow pace and constant changes is "just get on with it!" and when I saw the new changes, I just thought "oh, forget it!".

[TheUrbanRoo]

I'm not sure why there's complaining about the pace on this. They've been moving along fine and at the exact pace they told us they would in order to get this thing done in 2026.

[beautyfromashes]

I'm not sure why there's complaining about the pace on this. They've been moving along fine and at the exact pace they told us they would in order to get this thing done in 2026.

Never trust the timeline of a developer. If they’re shooting for 2026, it will be 2027, or they’ll have just the cap and will be throwing down sod trying to beat the World Cup.

[TheUrbanRoo]

I'm not sure why there's complaining about the pace on this. They've been moving along fine and at the exact pace they told us they would in order to get this thing done in 2026.

Never trust the timeline of a developer. If they’re shooting for 2026, it will be 2027, or they’ll have just the cap and will be throwing down sod trying to beat the World Cup.

Private development, absolutely you’re right.

But as far as these public projects have gone? Airport got done ahead of time. Streetcar appears to be going ahead of time. As far as I’ve been following public projects they’ve done great with their timeline following. I could be wrong!! So don’t skewer me.

[TheLastGentleman]

This project has been discussed for probably 15+ years at this point. I’m sorry but I am not holding my breath right now

[GRID]

It took over three years to build Klyde Warren Park in Dallas and that was build time, not design time. Of course that park was a much more involved project that basically rebuilt everything in the corridor except the driving lanes of the highway and created an actual tunnel.

I still don't understand the KC project at all. It's like they are just going to build lids over the highway between the existing bridges or something. Will these lids have gaps on all fours sides for ventilation? Even though Klyde Warren Park was a more invasive and comprehensive rebuild and is a ventilated sealed tunnel, it cost half what the KC park is projected to cost.

I hope it happens, but I still have a lot of questions and having any of it finished by 2026 seems like a longshot still.

[WoodDraw]

Yeah this project is losing me. It's not really a cap or a park.

[Cratedigger]

It took over three years to build Klyde Warren Park in Dallas and that was build time, not design time. Of course that park was a much more involved project that basically rebuilt everything in the corridor except the driving lanes of the highway and created an actual tunnel.

I still don't understand the KC project at all. It's like they are just going to build lids over the highway between the existing bridges or something. Will these lids have gaps on all fours sides for ventilation? Even though Klyde Warren Park was a more invasive and comprehensive rebuild and is a ventilated sealed tunnel, it cost half what the KC park is projected to cost.

I hope it happens, but I still have a lot of questions and having any of it finished by 2026 seems like a longshot still.

So I’ve asked the project teams about this and they’ve told me they’re building a tunnel with ventilation fans on the edges of the park

* I’m not an engineer and I obviously don’t have the final design specs

[GRID]

It took over three years to build Klyde Warren Park in Dallas and that was build time, not design time. Of course that park was a much more involved project that basically rebuilt everything in the corridor except the driving lanes of the highway and created an actual tunnel.

I still don't understand the KC project at all. It's like they are just going to build lids over the highway between the existing bridges or something. Will these lids have gaps on all fours sides for ventilation? Even though Klyde Warren Park was a more invasive and comprehensive rebuild and is a ventilated sealed tunnel, it cost half what the KC park is projected to cost.

I hope it happens, but I still have a lot of questions and having any of it finished by 2026 seems like a longshot still.

So I’ve asked the project teams about this and they’ve told me they’re building a tunnel with ventilation fans on the edges of the park

* I’m not an engineer and I obviously don’t have the final design specs

That is the first I have heard that, so that's good.

[WoodDraw]

I'm surprised everyone is so happy about protecting the street grid. I know cars always win in KC, but this isn't super exciting to me.