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Re: NFL Draft

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:01 pm
by TheUrbanRoo
Because it's the greatest league and extremely entertaining. Idk why that's considered silly. Most people love it.

Re: NFL Draft

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:27 pm
by brewcrew1000
UMKC Roo wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:01 pm Because it's the greatest league and extremely entertaining. Idk why that's considered silly. Most people love it.
Yes the product that is played is entertaining, the other 95% the nonstop talk about the product, the draft, the business side of it is not entertaining and overbearing on the overall scope of sports. That is the part I'm talking about not the product that is played

Re: NFL Draft

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:42 am
by DColeKC
brewcrew1000 wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:27 pm
UMKC Roo wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:01 pm Because it's the greatest league and extremely entertaining. Idk why that's considered silly. Most people love it.
Yes the product that is played is entertaining, the other 95% the nonstop talk about the product, the draft, the business side of it is not entertaining and overbearing on the overall scope of sports. That is the part I'm talking about not the product that is played
They're genius level marketers and operators. MLB disappears for nearly 5 months, 30 seconds after the last out in the World Series. People care for opening day and the first few weeks, then fall off until the playoffs.

NFL lays out their year so they're never off the radar. They have the perfect calendar and setup.

Re: NFL Draft

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:35 am
by KCtoBrooklyn
UMKC Roo wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:01 pm Because it's the greatest league and extremely entertaining. Idk why that's considered silly. Most people love it.
It's debatable what is the "greatest". I think there is definitely a feedback cycle created here largely due to great marketing by the NFL (and the gambling industry). They create an environment where the sport is talked about year round which draws more attention to the league, which makes the games bigger events, which leads to more coverage and attention... and the feedback cycle of hype continues.

People in KC should have no doubt of the social bandwagon effect in sports - just look at the Royals in 2014 and 2015. Relatively few people cared about baseball in this town and then all of the sudden, people were decked in Royals gear who hadn't watched a game in the last 30 years. Baseball was suddenly all anyone talked about so people had to take notice. This is the environment the NFL has created and it's not all about the product.

Re: NFL Draft

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:46 am
by Cratedigger
KCtoBrooklyn wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:35 am
UMKC Roo wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:01 pm Because it's the greatest league and extremely entertaining. Idk why that's considered silly. Most people love it.
It's debatable what is the "greatest". I think there is definitely a feedback cycle created here largely due to great marketing by the NFL (and the gambling industry). They create an environment where the sport is talked about year round which draws more attention to the league, which makes the games bigger events, which leads to more coverage and attention... and the feedback cycle of hype continues.

People in KC should have no doubt of the social bandwagon effect in sports - just look at the Royals in 2014 and 2015. Relatively few people cared about baseball in this town and then all of the sudden, people were decked in Royals gear who hadn't watched a game in the last 30 years. Baseball was suddenly all anyone talked about so people had to take notice. This is the environment the NFL has created and it's not all about the product.
I think this is something the NBA is great about as well

Re: NFL Draft

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:20 pm
by TheUrbanRoo
Statistically the NFL is by far the most followed & watched league

Re: NFL Draft

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:51 pm
by WoodDraw
UMKC Roo wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:20 pm Statistically the NFL is by far the most followed & watched league
*in the us

Re: NFL Draft

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 12:54 pm
by DColeKC
WoodDraw wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:51 pm
UMKC Roo wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:20 pm Statistically the NFL is by far the most followed & watched league
*in the us
*In the world

Now if you combine all the various soccer leagues together, soccer is the most watched sport compared to American Football. NFL is by far, the most watch league.

Re: NFL Draft

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:08 pm
by WoodDraw
DColeKC wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 12:54 pm
WoodDraw wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:51 pm
UMKC Roo wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:20 pm Statistically the NFL is by far the most followed & watched league
*in the us
*In the world

Now if you combine all the various soccer leagues together, soccer is the most watched sport compared to American Football. NFL is by far, the most watch league.
Champions league is bigger than the NFL. World Cup is as well.

Re: NFL Draft

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:12 pm
by DColeKC
WoodDraw wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:08 pm
DColeKC wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 12:54 pm
WoodDraw wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:51 pm

*in the us
*In the world

Now if you combine all the various soccer leagues together, soccer is the most watched sport compared to American Football. NFL is by far, the most watch league.
Champions league is bigger than the NFL. World Cup is as well.
What data are we using to determine this? Revenue, most watched?

Re: NFL Draft

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:31 pm
by WoodDraw
DColeKC wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:12 pm
WoodDraw wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:08 pm
DColeKC wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 12:54 pm

*In the world

Now if you combine all the various soccer leagues together, soccer is the most watched sport compared to American Football. NFL is by far, the most watch league.
Champions league is bigger than the NFL. World Cup is as well.
What data are we using to determine this? Revenue, most watched?
I was pushing back against the most followed and watched terminology which is just demonstrably not true.

The nfl does a fantastic job though and no one can doubt they’re dominating the us (which is a very important market to dominate).

Re: NFL Draft

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 3:22 pm
by shinatoo
"Biggest league" is tricky. By game attendance, it's MLB by miles. If you go by the biggest sport, it's Soccer followed closely by Cricket. If you go on value it's

1. National Football League (NFL) — $13 Billion
2. Major League Baseball (MLB) — $10 Billion
3. National Basketball Association (NBA) — $7.4 Billion
4. Indian Premier League (Cricket) — $6.3 Billion
5. English Premier League — $5.3 Billion

Re: NFL Draft

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:09 pm
by Cratedigger
shinatoo wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 3:22 pm "Biggest league" is tricky. By game attendance, it's MLB by miles. If you go by the biggest sport, it's Soccer followed closely by Cricket. If you go on value it's

1. National Football League (NFL) — $13 Billion
2. Major League Baseball (MLB) — $10 Billion
3. National Basketball Association (NBA) — $7.4 Billion
4. Indian Premier League (Cricket) — $6.3 Billion
5. English Premier League — $5.3 Billion
How is that calculated? EPL seems low

Re: NFL Draft

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:53 pm
by WoodDraw
It’s also complicated because nfl uses the franchise model while the premier league uses promotion and relegation in a league system. As well as champions league, friendlies, etc.

It’s tricky.

But to use a really crappy metric, the chiefs have 2 million followers on Twitter. Arsenal has 20 million.

The reach of soccer is far wider than the nfl.

Re: NFL Draft

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:57 pm
by DColeKC
WoodDraw wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:53 pm It’s also complicated because nfl uses the franchise model while the premier league uses promotion and relegation in a league system. As well as champions league, friendlies, etc.

It’s tricky.

But to use a really crappy metric, the chiefs have 2 million followers on Twitter. Arsenal has 20 million.

The reach of soccer is far wider than the nfl.
Soccer is king for sure. The Champions League championship game destroys the Super Bowl in viewers.

NFL is just a beast from a revenue perspective.

Re: NFL Draft

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:46 am
by beautyfromashes
https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-awards-int ... -countries
Found this interesting. 18 NFL teams, including the Chiefs, were awarded international marketing rights to certain countries. The Chiefs are listed with Germany. Several of the teams will have one or more of their draft picks announced from cities in those countries this year. Curious why the Chiefs chose Germany, especially since it doesn't appear exclusive and other teams are listed for Germany. No one is listed for France. Perhaps an African country would have made sense with a Nigerian Nightmare tie in.

Re: NFL Draft

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 1:25 pm
by brewcrew1000
Kind of weird Buffalo is not tied to Canada

Re: NFL Draft

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 2:02 pm
by WoodDraw
Is any of that legal? lol like this isn’t typically how things work

Re: NFL Draft

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 3:03 pm
by normalthings
beautyfromashes wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:46 am https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-awards-int ... -countries
Found this interesting. 18 NFL teams, including the Chiefs, were awarded international marketing rights to certain countries. The Chiefs are listed with Germany. Several of the teams will have one or more of their draft picks announced from cities in those countries this year. Curious why the Chiefs chose Germany, especially since it doesn't appear exclusive and other teams are listed for Germany. No one is listed for France. Perhaps an African country would have made sense with a Nigerian Nightmare tie in.
Does NFL play any games in France?

Re: NFL Draft

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 3:09 pm
by TheSmokinPun
Nope, first regular season game in Germany was Sunday. Munich airport had an ad for the Chiefs coming next season, expected to be one of the KC home games there.

The international thing is weird but smart on Chiefs to nail Germany & Mexico.