DITTO!!!chrizow wrote: i've seen much crazier shit at the westport sunfresh.
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DITTO!!!chrizow wrote: i've seen much crazier shit at the westport sunfresh.
No, they won't. But, I might not take my kids up to the park on the other side if it's party central. Of course, that probably wasn't really meant to be a park from the beginning. Someone will probably turn that into a lawn bowling pub club like I've been to in MSP. Oh well, downtown isn't for families anyway.KCPowercat wrote: Nobody is going to stay away from costintinos because of jones...what a joke.
Correct me if I am wrong but is this not the second weekend in a row that we have had members of this forum encounter Jone's UP patrons passed out below deck in the middle of the day? Last weekend didn't the kid make it to the sidewalk level? At the current pace, I am not sure that "isolated" is an appropriate description - especially since this is just the reports of forum members doing their shopping.KCPowercat wrote: Its an isolated incident either way...
I heard a waitress say that and I also heard the guy at the front counter say it.KCPowercat wrote: Jones validates. Maybe it was party organizers saying that???
You aren't the only one standing up for the joint. I am pretty sure you could have dropped The Jones UP down in pretty much any city in America outside of Orange County and Las Vegas and gotten pretty much the same mixture of reaction - some people who think it sounds like great fun and some people who think it sounds like a ridiculous din of superficiality and excess. Any concept with "Ultra" in the title is probably going to seem pretty undesireable to folks who don't fit that scene, and I don't think that is a KC specific phenomenon. Perhaps the Rag has a higher than average ratio of folks who don't fit that scene.KCPowercat wrote: Seriously...the majority here HATES this place and its patrons...so piling on goes on unchecked. Great if that's what you want....I just don't want to go along with it.
this has been the most common sentiment here - "not my style, but bully for them." sure, there are a few barbs at "striped shirts" or "sorostitutes" or whatever here and there, but you see the same kind of stereotype-based banter about everywhere.LenexatoKCMO wrote: You aren't the only one standing up for the joint. I am pretty sure you could have dropped The Jones UP down in pretty much any city in America outside of Orange County and Las Vegas and gotten pretty much the same mixture of reaction - some people who think it sounds like great fun and some people who think it sounds like a ridiculous din of superficiality and excess.
i do think places that try to come off as "Ultra" and "VIP" and "exclusive" are basically asking for the ire of the masses, as are their patrons. the entire idea behind this sort of thing is "i'm attractive and am wealthy (or like to pretend i am attractive and wealthy), and like to hang out with like-minded folks in an exclusive environment - i.e. an environment that excludes those not like me." i'm not saying all patrons of these places actually think this way, but i bet a lot do. not only is this attitude laughable on its own, but it's particularly laughable in a place like KC.LenexatoKCMO wrote: Any concept with "Ultra" in the title is probably going to seem pretty undesireable to folks who don't fit that scene, and I don't think that is a KC specific phenomenon.
I concur.KCPowercat wrote: Fair enough. Guess I just don't like the piling on when most of us are here for the same reason...to see the core grow and prosper...I see these new and unique concepts as a way to draw more types of people (even if I don't hang out with them) to add to the success...when I see this group almost to a man hating on it, it seems closeminded to what I think is most people's goal here.
This place and almost every other new place can improve itself to help downtown even more.
I think it's pretty clear that taken in context, "I hate this place," can mean very much the same thing as, "Not my place, but I'm glad it is here." Don't you think? It isn't unusual for folks to express a slightly exaggerated opinion of distaste that obviously doesn't represent actual hate of the, "Oh my god I hope it fails," variety.KCPowercat wrote: Chriz...you honestly feel the common theme has been 'not my place but glad its here'?? Really? I haven't seen that at all from most...unless 'i hate this place' is supposed to mean something I am not aware of.
Duh.KCPowercat wrote: time of day make a difference?