Spire Bridge a go for Omaha

[bbqboy]

A similar bridge that has been a huge success:
http://www.turtlebay.org/sundial/sundial.shtml
  http://www.viamagazine.com/top_stories/ ... ding04.asp
...and Joe nothing's funnier than folks from Nebraskie making fun of Ioway.

[Ingersoll1978]

If you knew anything about Council Bluffs, know you'd know this bridge is a moronic idea.  Council Bluffs is a filthy cesspool.  The common nickname for it here in Omaha is "Counciltucky."  They are probably more trailers and manufactured homes than real houses.

I'd rather live in Council Bluffs than north or south Omaha.  Although those areas are making gaines, they aren't close to the development that Council Bluffs has experienced since the casinos arrived 10 years ago. 

About the trailers...Here's the numbers that I could find:

Nebraska: 
Douglas County (Omaha):  2,997
Sarpy County:  737
Cass County:  959
Washington County:  435
Saunders County:  369

Total:  5,497

Dodge County (Fremont-part of Omaha CSA):  1028

Iowa:
Pottawattamie County (Council Bluffs):  1,811
Mills County:  603
Harrison County:  421

Total:  2,835

Grand MSA Total:  8,332
Grand CSA Total:  9,360

So that's 70% of the manufactured homes are on the Nebraska side of the river in the CSA.

[Big Red Storm]

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You'd rather live in Council Bluffs than South Omaha?  Really?  Wow, that couldn't be further from the truth for me.  South O is actually kinda cool, and has lots of good Mexican fare.  I'd take that over casinos and bland suburban tract homes anyday.

[Ingersoll1978]

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You'd rather live in Council Bluffs than South Omaha?  Really?  Wow, that couldn't be further from the truth for me.  South O is actually kinda cool, and has lots of good Mexican fare.  I'd take that over casinos and bland suburban tract homes anyday.

I'd recommend checking out Downtown Council Bluffs.  There turn of the century (1900) homes, many different older apartment buildings, etc. in the area.  A lot of the homes are in the bluffs overlooking C.B. and Omaha.  If I want great Mexican fare, I could surely find it in the 'Bluffs as well as South O.

[Joemoney]

Ingersoll1978, perhaps you've never been to CB, you must not know what it's like.

Regarding your stats, CB has 60,000 people, Douglas county has 450,000.

According to your stats then, in Douglas county then, 1 out every 150 people live in a trailer.

In CB, one out of every 31 people live in a trailer.

Now where would you rather live?

And let it be noted, MANY MANY of Omaha's trailer parks are being bought up and demolished, so that number is probably much lower.  I know for a fact atleast 200 have been demolished within the last 5 years, and really there have been no new trailer developments in Omaha.  While in CB, many of the trailer communities are newer.

And if you're in CB ever, drive around.  It's the filthiest, lowest, scummiest, "truck-stoppyiest" city/town ever.  We call it "Council-tucky" for a reason.

[Joemoney]

...and Joe nothing's funnier than folks from Nebraskie making fun of Ioway.

I know of something funnier, someone from Missouri (home of the Ozarks, and Branson, two nationally known white trash meccas) making fun of someone from Nebraska.

[KCMax]

It was from a pork barrel federal grant.  We're only building it because it's free.

Compare it to someone random walking up to you and offering you something for free you don't want or need, but has too much monetary value to turn down.

That is antithetical to everything John Stossel stands for. Give me a break.

[DTO]

I'd rather live in Council Bluffs than north or south Omaha.  Although those areas are making gaines, they aren't close to the development that Council Bluffs has experienced since the casinos arrived 10 years ago. 

I don't know about that. North Omaha maybe, but more development than South Omaha? South Omaha is one of the most urban and diverse places in Omaha. S. 24th looks like an upkept version of Milwaukee Avenue in Chicago. Council BLuffs does have it's nice part on the eastern side of the city but none of their projects have been all that steller. The MAC (arena) isn't doing that well, the Plaza around the MAC is a disaster. They have only had 1 restaurant open. The casinos kill all of that potential retail. People aren't going to shop. They are going to gamble.

[bbqboy]

I know of something funnier, someone from Missouri (home of the Ozarks, and Branson, two nationally known white trash meccas) making fun of someone from Nebraska.

Kansas & Missouri know enough to have a  sense of humor about
themselves.
Nebraska & Iowa, on the other hand, see themselves as actually important, which
of course isn't true. At all.

[cpt4599]

I know of something funnier, someone from Missouri (home of the Ozarks, and Branson, two nationally known white trash meccas) making fun of someone from Nebraska.

Well joe Branson probably brings in more tourists and money to the state of MO than all Nebraska tourism combined. 

[Ingersoll1978]

I don't know about that. North Omaha maybe, but more development than South Omaha? South Omaha is one of the most urban and diverse places in Omaha. S. 24th looks like an upkept version of Milwaukee Avenue in Chicago. Council BLuffs does have it's nice part on the eastern side of the city but none of their projects have been all that steller. The MAC (arena) isn't doing that well, the Plaza around the MAC is a disaster. They have only had 1 restaurant open. The casinos kill all of that potential retail. People aren't going to shop. They are going to gamble.

You're kidding yourself if you believe that South Omaha has more development growth than Council Bluffs.  Council Bluffs had far more development in the past 10 years.  From casinos, Bass Pro Shops, hotels, Mid-America Center, Manawa Power Center, Downtown Revitalization, new library, new apartments, homes, etc.  Also, when I look at the calendar from the Mid-America Center...it seems to be doing much better than it was.  There will be even more growth once the I-80/I-29 corridor is cleaned up.  I think that will change a lot of Omahan's perceptions of Council Bluffs, which is very negative.  About shopping, evidently people are shopping in CB.  Go look at the growth at the Manawa Power Center.  Council Bluffs serves as the major shopping area for southwest Iowa.  

And Joe, considering I'm from SW Iowa...I think I would know a few things about the Bluffs.  After all...why would you go to a "cesspool"?  Let's see a picture of your "luxury" home in Regency.

[DTO]

You're kidding yourself if you believe that South Omaha has more development growth than Council Bluffs.  Council Bluffs had far more development in the past 10 years.  From casinos, Bass Pro Shops, hotels, Mid-America Center, Manawa Power Center, Downtown Revitalization, new library, new apartments, homes, etc.  Also, when I look at the calendar from the Mid-America Center...it seems to be doing much better than it was.  There will be even more growth once the I-80/I-29 corridor is cleaned up.  I think that will change a lot of Omahan's perceptions of Council Bluffs, which is very negative.  About shopping, evidently people are shopping in CB.  Go look at the growth at the Manawa Power Center.  Council Bluffs serves as the major shopping area for southwest Iowa.  

You can't compare south Omaha to Council Bluffs. CB is it's own city while south Omaha is just a part of Omaha (probably actually larger than CB). I have nothing against CB. I go over there all the time to get gas, go to the movies and some other things because it's closer to where I live than out west somewhere.

However I don't see casinos as development, they actually do the opposite. Bass Pro would be a draw where ever it is placed. The other things you mentioned about DTCB revitaliazation, new homes and apartments could easily be said about south Omaha. The big differance between the two is that one is mainly suburban while the other is all urban. South Omaha isn't going to have it's own arenas.

[im2kull]

It was from a pork barrel federal grant.  We're only building it because it's free.

Compare it to someone random walking up to you and offering you something for free you don't want or need, but has too much monetary value to turn down.

and KC gets screwed outta 20 million for a bridge to help traffic and keep schoolkids safe....

[Joemoney]

Well joe Branson probably brings in more tourists and money to the state of MO than all Nebraska tourism combined. 

Brothels and the drug trade brings in a lot of tourists and money, but do you want those in your state?

It's about quality of people and culture.  Missouri has been permanently marked with the "hillbilly" culture.

[KCPowercat]

I'm heading down to the Ozarks right now....can't wait to see those million dollar boats parked in those million dollar homes full of hillbillies.

Maybe JM is right, I always wondered why so many Nebraska tags were in middle missouri.

[Joemoney]

parked in those million dollar homes full of hillbillies.

How many of them are 20,000 square foot houses?  That's the important question.  Not many or any at all I would bet.

[bbqboy]

Joe,
yakoff smirnoff has a 100,000 sq. meter russian onion dome, with his secret transmitting equipment in theCross,
It's the size of the superdome but  the joke vault is under Jim stafford's tunnel, so to speak.

[kcdcchef]

How many of them are 20,000 square foot houses?  That's the important question.  Not many or any at all I would bet.

you really have nothing else in life but these mansions and billionaires. i really feel sorry for you that you are that obsessed with 2 people. ( both omaha billionaires )

[Joemoney]

you really have nothing else in life but these mansions and billionaires. i really feel sorry for you that you are that obsessed with 2 people. ( both omaha billionaires )

Omaha has 5 billionaires and ten 20,000 square foot mansions.  Both more than KC has.

[kcdcchef]

Omaha has 5 billionaires and ten 20,000 square foot mansions.  Both more than KC has.

forbes does not say 5. so, screw you blue. omaha does not have 5.

what time is vacation bible school tomorrow joe?