Yeah...it was just KC's downtown that got bad.GRID wrote: Every time a see a project like this, I am amazed at just how bad our downtown got, just incredible.
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Yeah...it was just KC's downtown that got bad.GRID wrote: Every time a see a project like this, I am amazed at just how bad our downtown got, just incredible.
Please visit 2005 Detroit. It makes our downtown in the 90s look like Paris.GRID wrote: Having extensively traveled the country, I can tell you we were one of the worst in the nation. I think that's pretty obvious.
Go back ten years, we had crown center and the office towers around 12th & Main, most everything else downtown was crap, from Union Station to vacant towers downtown.
It was bad, real bad.
Other towns had some underused areas and buildings, but they blew KC out of the water overall. One main reason for this is we have the plaza and most of our urban housing, entertainment, shopping, dining etc is located several miles from Downtown.
That's changing now, but yea, KC was bad, especially when you look at the Downtown CBD or loop area. It was a total and complete joke for the longest time.
I'm just glad we woke up before we started to loose the amazing structures like 909, president, professional etc. Because of all this incredible building stock, KC will rise from the decay and become one of the most interesting urban downtowns in the nation.
huzzah! our downtown is better than america's most devastated and decayed major urban area!trailerkid wrote: Please visit 2005 Detroit. It makes our downtown in the 90s look like Paris.
very true.dangerboy wrote: I think that what saved KC was that we still had several strong neighborhoods in around the urban core that was able to keep the city alive through the darkest times. The Plaza preserved some idea of a city center in people's minds, and areas like Brookside allowed us to hang onto a lot of the city's intellectual, civic, and monetary assets. We also had the Northland to allow us to at least profit somewhat from suburban flight and future development.
While our downtown emptied out, we didn't lose the whole city. We didn't see the wholesale abandonment that happened in cities like Detroit or St. Louis.Â
Yes. Most people would mention St. Louis, Detroit, and Kansas City in the same sentence just as they would mention Seattle, Denver and Portland in the same sentence. We are in the class of cities that had their downtown completely ravaged by white flight and insipid suburbanization.GRID wrote: Been to Detroit, so that is who we compare to? We have to use Detroit to make us look good?
Detroit also has a pretty good sized downtown workforce, so they at least had that going for them.
.... and replace the burnt-out floodlight bulbs.shinatoo wrote: Can they move over and claen the P&L building next. Shamefull!
Can you get a couple shots for us sometime?scooterj wrote: The air handling units are being hoisted up by crane now.  Anyone know when this is supposed to open?