Article by Hearne Christopher

trailerkid · Post by **trailerkid** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:43 pm

pittsburghparoyal wrote:
If AEG wanted to take over a lackluster arena with no pro sports and no world tours they would've went after Kemper. AEG, owner of the freaking Lakers, LA Kings, and Staples Center, did not come to KC to front some glorified bingo hall. They think they can make money in KC.

Agreed 100%. They know what'll work. I'll trust that they do. However, when you say "I guarantee youll get a tenant", I want to take him at his word. Maybe it won't come true, but if he KNOWS it's not likely, he should be honest.

Yes, he guaranteed it. The arena doesn't even have a fucking architect yet (pardon my language). Could you please get off of Leiweke's nuts and let the man do his job.

aknowledgeableperson · Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:48 pm

No, Fritz's knowledge is not just based on Lacross. He is a team onwer in Lacross so he does have lot of experience in the financing of teams, negotiations with players, and so on. He knows sports, entertainment, and arena business probably more than anyone else living in the KC area. He will also admit that he is not always right (you should see him when one of his concerts loses money big time) but he is a survivor. So don't bad mouth Chris just because he is quoted in Hearne's column.

KCPowercat · Post by **KCPowercat** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:48 pm

yeah tk, learn something from the guy who names himself "aknowledgableperson"

pa......I'm not arguing that in further...it's a suburb...it's nothing without the city. we're all in this thing together though. My household income and yours....there are 1.5M people that don't live in JOCO in this metro..they contribute as well.

Maitre D · Post by **Maitre D** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:50 pm

I do my part. Royals season tix, opera season tix, on the plaza all the time. That's all I'll say.

Cordish will be all over the JOCO money. If there are gangsta rappers hanging out at KC Live, like there are at Westport and WERE at the Plaza Theatres, I'm not going back.

aknowledgeableperson · Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:52 pm

With all of this talk about suburbs it may not be long before KCMO is a suburb of Johnson County. JoCo has almost the same population of KC and its average income is certainly greater.

trailerkid · Post by **trailerkid** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:54 pm

aknowledgeableperson wrote:With all of this talk about suburbs it may not be long before KCMO is a suburb of Johnson County. JoCo has almost the same population of KC and its average income is certainly greater.

And not one thing worth seeing or doing...ha ha

Maitre D · Post by **Maitre D** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:55 pm

TK is right about that.

Every time i hear another DUMB plan about an arena in olathe, i just shake my head in amazement.

KCPowercat · Post by **KCPowercat** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:56 pm

"do your part"....ok whatever. this debate is silly. We all "do our part" I guess...it doesn't matter your area of the city. Why is JoCo always fishing for compliments for all they do? I'm not a huge JoCo hater...I lived there, it wasn't for me but I mean come on give it up.....no one piece is God's gift to this area.

akp...now I know you're not who you say you are.

Maitre D · Post by **Maitre D** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:00 pm

I don't care if you compliment me, ever.

Secondly, I'm not a big "KC-guy" as it is. I only care b/c I'm from here. It's like rooting for your alma mater: you ahve to do it.

Doesn't mean MU fans are proud of their hoops coach now, tho.

trailerkid · Post by **trailerkid** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:00 pm

I take back my anti-JoCo comment. Although that was my initial reaction, it doesn't get us anywhere just dissing and blasting areas of KC. But it is strikingly evident that JoCo, East Jack, and other 'burbs cannot even begin to match the destinations of KCMO.

aknowledgeableperson · Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:03 pm

By suburb I mean that JoCo will have a greater popualtion than KC with greater personal income. And maybe more jobs (just look at 435 going westbound into KS in the morning). Anyway, it was just an idle statement to see what kind of response there would be.

KCPowercat · Post by **KCPowercat** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:03 pm

I've been on record here for not blasting any certain area of the city...we're all in this fight together...but on the other hand I'm not going to let a suburb or urban core for that matter, think they are any better because of some certain statistic.

PA...sorry you don't like KC....guess we're doing better than your moniker though....actually gaining people and jobs (and sunshine

). I've never understood the lack of civic pride in KC....it's probably our 2nd biggest downfall (only behind a stupid state line in the middle of our city)

KCPowercat · Post by **KCPowercat** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:05 pm

kind of tough comparing an entire county to one city. I bet you could pull up the top 35 metros and get the same results....one county in the burbs higher equal population and higher median income than the city it surrounds....

the good news is cities are coming back...people are flocking to the core and buying up places at a record mark....people are tired of the same old burbs.

Maitre D · Post by **Maitre D** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:07 pm

KCPowercat wrote:PA...sorry you don't like KC....guess we're doing better than your moniker though....actually gaining people and jobs (and sunshine ). I've never understood the lack of civic pride in KC....it's probably our 2nd biggest downfall (only behind a stupid state line in the middle of our city)

1. If i didn't like it, why am i posting here?
2. I like certain aspects of KC. I just think it is HORRIBLY mismanaged.
3. I've pointed out several great thigns this city has: great schools, great sunshine/weather (which is NEVER accentuated by morons at CVB), Plaza is unreal, etc.
4. But I"m a realist. I'm paid to do that at my corporate job. the state line doesn't do half as much damage as the idiots who puked all over Union Station.

trailerkid · Post by **trailerkid** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:08 pm

KCPowercat wrote:kind of tough comparing an entire county to one city. I bet you could pull up the top 35 metros and get the same results....one county in the burbs higher equal population and higher median income than the city it surrounds....

Jo Co = mini-Orange County on the prairie. You're not unique...at all.

Maitre D · Post by **Maitre D** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:09 pm

yeah, and the bums sleeping on Quindaro naked ARE?

KCPowercat · Post by **KCPowercat** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:09 pm

1) this comment from above made me say that "I'm not a big "KC-guy" as it is"

4) Blame the bi-state commission...which includes people from both sides of the state line. I actually don't believe Union Station is horrible. The tax paid did it's job....save a historic structure...sure it needs to be programmed correctly but we came together and saved a true jewel for the metro....it's KC residents who feel the need to hate on everything.

Maitre D · Post by **Maitre D** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:13 pm

i'm not right now - but could be. the arena is a good start. let's keep it all going.

u.s. really has no purpose now. what are the options? aren't casinos illegal unless on riverbeds?

trailerkid · Post by **trailerkid** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:14 pm

pittsburghparoyal wrote:But I"m a realist. I'm paid to do that at my corporate job. the state line doesn't do half as much damage as the idiots who puked all over Union Station.

You are continuing to distribute lies when it comes to Union Station. For the last time, the city of KCMO DID NOT screw up Union Station. There was a director, Turner White, who was fired as well as board members from across the metro including the mayor of OP, someone from Olathe, Brisbane who publishes the Star, and Mary Bloch among others.

It was a Bistate coaltion (including people from good 'ole Jo Co) that f---ed up Union Station in addition to Turner White.

Maitre D · Post by **Maitre D** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:15 pm

trailerkid wrote:
pittsburghparoyal wrote:But I"m a realist. I'm paid to do that at my corporate job. the state line doesn't do half as much damage as the idiots who puked all over Union Station.
You are continuing to distribute lies when it comes to Union Station. For the last time, the city of KCMO DID NOT screw up Union Station. .

Uh, excuse me: quote where I said that KCMO did it.

Steve Rose was a big supporter of it, and he admits he was wrong in the Sun.

If you can't produce my quote, produce an apology or retraction, TK