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Re: 4711 Belleview

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:22 am
by Steve52
jasty5 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:19 am I'm pretty sure that WPNA is not against development on the Madison/Bellvieu corridor as long as it considers traffic flow, etc. Most folks I know have been supportive of higher/better uses along that stretch.
Why even worry about that at this point. It's out of their control. You can experience all the excitement and culture you desire at QuikTrip city on Westport road now.

Re: 4711 Belleview

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:28 pm
by Critical_Mass
It looks like this project may have grown in size.
From a rezoning application submitted 12/6:
Address 4711 Belleview Ave Kansas City MO 64112
Description Request for rezoning 2 adjacent parcels to currently zoned MPD-5 parcels from R1.5 to MPD-5. this allows for additional residential units to project along with 10, 370 s.f. of commercial.

Re: 4711 Belleview

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:59 pm
by Steve52
Developer invited the WP neighborhood for coffee and donuts on Saturday, March 7 for a Q+A. That's very generous of them.

Re: 4711 Belleview

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:06 am
by normalthings
Developers: Unsure.
Architect: Action Pact Design
Scope: 366 or 388 unit multi-family apartment. 615 parking spaces
Website: https://www.thedylanat4711.com


From the late-April CPC Docket:
CASE # CD-CPC-2019-00231 – 4711 Belleview – A request to rezoning about 0.5 acre
from District R-1.5 (Residential 1.5) to District MPD (Master Plan Development), for the
purpose of amending the MPD Plan on 1.7 acres to allow for 255 unit multi-family
apartment on about 1.7 acres generally located on at the northeast corner of W.
48th Street and Belleview Avenue.
Applicant: Alex Toye, Action Pact Design Group
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Re: 4711 Belleview

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:06 am
by shinatoo
Well, hello there.

Re: 4711 Belleview

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:34 pm
by FangKC
That is one big apartment building.

Re: 4711 Belleview

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:36 am
by kboish
I don't get why they would put two garage entrances onto the trafficway instead of onto those side streets.

But all things considered, i'll take it.

There have been 4 large apartment proposals near this area along the trafficway, but none have moved to construction so far. I hope at least one gets going.

Re: 4711 Belleview

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:41 am
by Midtownkid
Not bad. I love how it looks like 3 separate buildings. Looks like they took cues from the Poet Apartments and Valencia Place. Hope the execution / building products are solid.

Re: 4711 Belleview

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:56 pm
by grecobs
LOVE this project!!!

Re: 4711 Belleview

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:29 pm
by moderne
Looks like the reason for the garage holes on Belleview is that they are using the slope of the street to access different levels of the garage. Less internal ramp needed, more spaces created. Facade reminds me of something built in Miami a century ago.

Re: 4711 Belleview

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:17 pm
by normalthings
Midtownkid wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:41 am Not bad. I love how it looks like 3 separate buildings. Looks like they took cues from the Poet Apartments and Valencia Place. Hope the execution / building products are solid.
Real terracotta is listed as a building material. its got my hopes up!

Re: 4711 Belleview

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:24 pm
by Chris Stritzel
normalthings wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:17 pm Real terracotta is listed as a building material. its got my hopes up!
I'm interested in seeing the final product now. Hopefully it gets built quickly

Re: 4711 Belleview

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:34 pm
by TheLastGentleman
I'm mixed on this design.

In detail, it reflects what I want to see in new construction on the plaza, with ornamentation and towers and the like. However, they're grafted onto an overall composition that's pretty half baked. The facade rhythm is randomly disrupted by blank space and the towers look like an afterthought, perched precariously on the roofs of big boxes. It also meets the ground poorly everywhere but the southwest corner.

It looks better suited to Briarcliff.

Re: 4711 Belleview

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:27 pm
by normalthings
Improvements do need to be made to the street experience on the north

Re: 4711 Belleview

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:15 am
by GRID
Wow, this seems like a perfect project for this site. Nice scale, but dense, decent design, good height. It's replacing a few really bad blocks in the plaza area. But I would imagine it will wake up a lot of NIMBYs.

Re: 4711 Belleview

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:18 am
by kboish
The only nearby association is the West Plaza Neighborhood association. The recent consensus from this neighborhood group has been not to oppose dense development along the trafficway with the recognition that there really is no other good use there. There are 3 other examples of projects of similar heights/density that they did not oppose so I would be surprised if the proposal for this location caused an uproar.

Re: 4711 Belleview

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:06 pm
by GRID
Good to hear. Looks like that tower proposed for 46th died too. Crazy how little the plaza has changed since I left KC over ten years ago (retail portion seems to have dropped another tier too).

Re: 4711 Belleview

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:35 pm
by langosta
GRID wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:06 pm Good to hear. Looks like that tower proposed for 46th died too. Crazy how little the plaza has changed since I left KC over ten years ago (retail portion seems to have dropped another tier too).
This project looks great. I think that Block said the 46th highrise is” still alive”. They are waiting for rents to hit a certain level before they start though.

Re: 4711 Belleview

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:04 pm
by CrossroadsUrbanApts
Got an indication today that the buyer backed out and the property is back on the market.

Re: 4711 Belleview

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:26 pm
by kboish
Someone should make a list of the proposed projects since 2012 or so that never happened. So, so many.