Bridgeport Church moving into El Torreon Ballroom

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During the Bush era, I wondered where a Christian Left would appear to counter the Christian Right, now that its appeared in the middle of my city, I wish it would go away again.
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Just ignoring them also works. As an agnostic, it's what I ask of them when it comes to my religious beliefs.

To point this out again: congregants of these churches - thinking specifically about Redeemer here - tend to bring with them families, money, and a desire to make the city better. It's easy find common ground in civic engagement.
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An agnostic what? Just curious.
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mean wrote:An agnostic what? Just curious.
Not sure I understand the question.
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Atheists- No gods. Nope, not one, not many, not all. Zero god, zero gods, none.
Christians are theists, monotheists- Jesus is the Lord.

Agnostics- might be one god, might be zero, might be a pantheon- indifferent.

Yeah, the common cause is a better city.
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Viva indifference.
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chaglang wrote:
mean wrote:An agnostic what? Just curious.
Not sure I understand the question.
Well...
WinchesterMysteryHouse wrote:Atheists- No gods. Nope, not one, not many, not all. Zero god, zero gods, none.
Christians are theists, monotheists- Jesus is the Lord.

Agnostics- might be one god, might be zero, might be a pantheon- indifferent.

Yeah, the common cause is a better city.
Not really. I've met agnostic Christians and agnostic atheists. You can determine what you know using empiricism, but that knowledge (or lack thereof) doesn't necessarily imply what you believe to be true. Indeed, most of the Christians I've talked to, when pressed, will admit to being agnostic, as will most atheists. In general, nobody seems to have proof / knowledge either way. It's a matter of believing, or not.
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Can't we take this convo to the religion thread?
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mean wrote:
chaglang wrote:
mean wrote:An agnostic what? Just curious.
Not sure I understand the question.
Well...
WinchesterMysteryHouse wrote:Atheists- No gods. Nope, not one, not many, not all. Zero god, zero gods, none.
Christians are theists, monotheists- Jesus is the Lord.

Agnostics- might be one god, might be zero, might be a pantheon- indifferent.

Yeah, the common cause is a better city.
Not really. I've met agnostic Christians and agnostic atheists. You can determine what you know using empiricism, but that knowledge (or lack thereof) doesn't necessarily imply what you believe to be true. Indeed, most of the Christians I've talked to, when pressed, will admit to being agnostic, as will most atheists. In general, nobody seems to have proof / knowledge either way. It's a matter of believing, or not.
Ah. That's why I didn't understand the question. I care so little about this that I never bothered to locate myself on the agnosticism spectrum. Is Agnostic Indifferent a thing?
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So Cowtown Mallroom has reopened as Holy Cow! on the second floor of the Bitterman's Eye Candy building.

Good things appear to be happening nearby at 31st and Cherry. Two buildings across the street from The 816 Bicycle Collective are undergoing renovations.

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Apparently, the building on the right will be the future home of The Jarboe Initiative/Maker Village. Check out their Facebook page for some some construction photos/video: https://www.facebook.com/TheJarboeInitiative

The building on the left will be residential on the second floor with retail below. No tenant lined up yet, but they are hoping for a cafe, bodega, or something food related.
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Mother of god, it's about damn time someone did something with those buildings. If I only had money I would have done it myself. Biggest steal in the city. Last time I checked those buildings were being sold for around $200,000. That corner building is so awesome and has so much potential. Best of luck people!
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The vacancy in this area that still blows my mind is the one on the Ne corner of 31st and Gillham. A bit pricier than the other corner building, but definitely more grand. Last I checked it was selling for a little over a million. God so much could be done with it!
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chaglang wrote:Is Agnostic Indifferent a thing?
Indifference would tend to pretty clearly suggest a lack of belief. *shrug*

Anyway, I'll respect BFA's desire not to see this content here and this will be my last post on the topic. I'd move these posts to a different thread, but it seems like an awfully minor divergence to bother with all that.
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Or who cares or gives a damn.
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Remember that time akp repeated the exact same question at two different intensity levels? That was awesome.
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The Cowtown Ballroom building is going up for auction on the courthouse steps this Wednesday, 1/29
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KCtoBrooklyn wrote:The Cowtown Ballroom building is going up for auction on the courthouse steps this Wednesday, 1/29
Oh man, if only I had some cash...
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Anyone have an address that is assigned to the Cowtown Ballroom?
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loftguy wrote:Anyone have an address that is assigned to the Cowtown Ballroom?
I was under the impression it is 3101 Gillham Plaza, but I may be mistaken.
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Is there a link for the "courthouse steps" thing?
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