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KCMax wrote:Martin has a pretty good thing going at KSU. If he bolts, its gotta either be (a) someone throws a boatload of money at him; (b) its a job that is clearly a step up (Illinois would be, South Carolina would not) or (c) he really can't stand Currie.
He also might not like living in Manhattan, KS. I think that would have to be tough for an east coast city guy.
That's not Frank...and if he was, not something that would be relieved in South Carolina, would it?
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AJoD wrote:
KCMax wrote:Martin has a pretty good thing going at KSU. If he bolts, its gotta either be (a) someone throws a boatload of money at him; (b) its a job that is clearly a step up (Illinois would be, South Carolina would not) or (c) he really can't stand Currie.
He also might not like living in Manhattan, KS. I think that would have to be tough for an east coast city guy.
Michael Beasley said that Manhattan and Miami are basically the same thing!

I really think the location knock against Manhattan is overblown. It's a nice town, it is a growing town, and for a coach who is a family man, it is a good place to raise kids. Some people like a change of pace, and actually want to get away from their hometown. Living in KC, moving to Arizona seemed to be like being on vacation everyday. My students don't understand why people move here and most can't wait to get out, and many would love to live in a place like Manhattan. Great coaches also tend to be workaholics- how many amenities do they need? How much time will they spend on the beach? If he really wants to go, Martin is making enough money to fly out if he wants to.
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someone throws a boatload of money at him
Years ago the things I read and HR advisors said was money was not a primary motivator for workers. It might work on a short term basis but after awhile a workers job satisfaction falls back to accomplishment, recognition, and so on. So in this case what is it that really motivates Frank Martin? With his new job might he be changing careers? :shock:
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phxcat wrote:
AJoD wrote:
KCMax wrote:Martin has a pretty good thing going at KSU. If he bolts, its gotta either be (a) someone throws a boatload of money at him; (b) its a job that is clearly a step up (Illinois would be, South Carolina would not) or (c) he really can't stand Currie.
He also might not like living in Manhattan, KS. I think that would have to be tough for an east coast city guy.
Michael Beasley said that Manhattan and Miami are basically the same thing!

I really think the location knock against Manhattan is overblown. It's a nice town, it is a growing town, and for a coach who is a family man, it is a good place to raise kids. Some people like a change of pace, and actually want to get away from their hometown. Living in KC, moving to Arizona seemed to be like being on vacation everyday. My students don't understand why people move here and most can't wait to get out, and many would love to live in a place like Manhattan. Great coaches also tend to be workaholics- how many amenities do they need? How much time will they spend on the beach? If he really wants to go, Martin is making enough money to fly out if he wants to.
Agree. Most college towns are in pretty rural areas, at least an hour or so from any big city.
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aknowledgeableperson wrote:
someone throws a boatload of money at him
Years ago the things I read and HR advisors said was money was not a primary motivator for workers. It might work on a short term basis but after awhile a workers job satisfaction falls back to accomplishment, recognition, and so on. So in this case what is it that really motivates Frank Martin? With his new job might he be changing careers? :shock:
Most workers don't have an agent whose sole purpose is to make them more money.
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I'd say Martin's main motivation is to have a positive impact on the lives of young men and to win a national championship. He will probably gravitate towards the place where he can accomplish both most realistically (and be financially secure in doing so). South Carolina would be a step back toward competing on the national level. It could be a 3 or 4+ year step back, too.
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I don't know who this guy is or why I should care, but I guess it's a good thing for Mizzou, according to some.

Alex Oriakhi chooses Missouri.
He chose Mizzou over Kentucky, Xavier, Duke and North Carolina.
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I don't know why he would choose Mizzou over Duke, North Carolina, or the defending national champions. :-k
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AllThingsKC wrote:I don't know who this guy is or why I should care, but I guess it's a good thing for Mizzou, according to some.

Alex Oriakhi chooses Missouri.
He chose Mizzou over Kentucky, Xavier, Duke and North Carolina.
:shock:

I don't know why he would choose Mizzou over Duke, North Carolina, or the defending national champions. :-k
Playing time. Duke and Carolina have much more depth in the frontcourt than Mizzou does next year, so Oriakhi saw a better chance to contribute in a meaningful way elsewhere. That and a prior relationship with Phil Pressey that put Mizzou in his mind when he started looking around a while ago.
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One reason why Missouri may be a big surprise in Basketball next season after losing so much talent off this year's team. Transfers: 4 of them and all of them having a potential impact.

http://rushthecourt.net/2012/04/18/most ... xt-season/
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KU releases their schedule

http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-bas ... 12aac.html

They'll play SLU at Sprint Center in late November. Michigan State (game played in Atlanta), at Ohio State, Temple and Colorado will be the toughest challenges.
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that seems like a pretty tough non-con. Belmont and Richmond are good mid-majors that make the tournament every year.
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K-State bball schedule:

http://curtiskitchen.com/k-state-releas ... -schedule/

K-State will be in the Pre-season NIT and could play in Madison Square Garden. Will play Gonzaga in Seattle and Florida in KC. UMKC is also on the schedule.
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ESPN's Gameday coming to Lawrence Feb 16 for the KU/Texas game. Mizzou will also be on Gameday Feb 23 when they travel to Kentucky.

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/08/08/37 ... meday.html
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KU is in Europe right now and has defeated the Swiss national team twice now. The timing of this trip is perfect, considering the team will have a very different identity next year. The sooner they figure some things out, the better. They will play a few games next against French league A and B league players.
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Also, its KU vs. MU right now in the Olympics as Sasha Kaun's Russian team battles Linas Kleiza's Lithuanian team in the quarterfinals.
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KCMax wrote:ESPN's Gameday coming to Lawrence Feb 16 for the KU/Texas game. Mizzou will also be on Gameday Feb 23 when they travel to Kentucky.

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/08/08/37 ... meday.html
Mizzou - Kentucky will be interesting. Particularly since at least one major sports publication is picking Mizzou to win the SEC.
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Someone's going to explain the hand signs to me. Also: that's a D1 college basketball team?!
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Top 50 programs of the past 50 years. Doesn't include the top 2 yet...which will be UCLA and UNC.

KU #5.

Mizzou #37

K-State #38

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blog ... series&wjb
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kcmetro wrote:Top 50 programs of the past 50 years. Doesn't include the top 2 yet...which will be UCLA and UNC.

KU #5.

Mizzou #37

K-State #38

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blog ... series&wjb
MIZZOU BASKETBALL - ALMOST AS RELEVANT AS WESTERN KENTUCKY! FEEL THE HISTORY!
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