I'm a little disappointed that neither The Star or evening news reported this. It seems like big news. Consider this default within the context of: KCK's lower tax revenue forecasts, KCK's increased property tax, alongside Kansas's steamroller approach to STAR bonds.
Or is this sort of thing more common in commercial real estate than I'd expect?
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I'm a little disappointed that neither The Star or evening news reported this. IT seems like big news. Consider this default within the context of: KCK's lower tax revenue forecasts, KCK's increased property tax, alongside Kansas's steamroller approach to STAR bonds.
Or is this sort of thing more common in commercial real estate than I'd expect?
also consider that the media relentlessly reports any and all shortfalls by the P&L district.
tacitus wrote:Or is this sort of thing more common in commercial real estate than I'd expect?
For times like this it is rather common. Can think of three things why this isn't that big of a deal.
1. They are in negotiations with lenders to refinance.
2. Taxpayer money is not at risk.
3. Tax collections are high enough to retire public bonds early (unlike the P&L).
The article says it was formerly called wild fire saloon. it was never called that. it was formerly saddle ranch chop house.
The food sucked at wild bills. As did the food at Mexican place they also ran. Even the location they had opened in leawood was shut down not long after opening. KC Hops needs to go out of business as it seems every restaurant they open is destined to fail regardless of location.
I'll give them credit for trying though. I filled out an online survey critical of the food at wild bills and the manager personally called me and even sent me a 20 dollar gift card and asked me for a second chance. Nice when a company does that, unfortunately the food was as bad as it was the first time and i never went to another KC Hops owned restaurant again.
justin8216 wrote:
I'll give them credit for trying though. I filled out an online survey critical of the food at wild bills and the manager personally called me and even sent me a 20 dollar gift card and asked me for a second chance. Nice when a company does that, unfortunately the food was as bad as it was the first time and i never went to another KC Hops owned restaurant again.
75th Street Brewery in Waldo was their first, and (in my opinion) still their best by a wide margin.
The article says it was formerly called wild fire saloon. it was never called that. it was formerly saddle ranch chop house.
The food sucked at wild bills. As did the food at Mexican place they also ran. Even the location they had opened in leawood was shut down not long after opening. KC Hops needs to go out of business as it seems every restaurant they open is destined to fail regardless of location.
I'll give them credit for trying though. I filled out an online survey critical of the food at wild bills and the manager personally called me and even sent me a 20 dollar gift card and asked me for a second chance. Nice when a company does that, unfortunately the food was as bad as it was the first time and i never went to another KC Hops owned restaurant again.
The article says it was formerly called wild fire saloon. it was never called that. it was formerly saddle ranch chop house.
The food sucked at wild bills. As did the food at Mexican place they also ran. Even the location they had opened in leawood was shut down not long after opening. KC Hops needs to go out of business as it seems every restaurant they open is destined to fail regardless of location.
I'll give them credit for trying though. I filled out an online survey critical of the food at wild bills and the manager personally called me and even sent me a 20 dollar gift card and asked me for a second chance. Nice when a company does that, unfortunately the food was as bad as it was the first time and i never went to another KC Hops owned restaurant again.
Of the existing KC Hopps restaurants, I can only speak to Barley's Brewhouse. I agree with you in that I personally find their food barely edible and, if I am in a group and everyone else wants to go there, I just go home. That said, the place seems to be packed most of the time so I'm not sure I understand your comment.
moosnsqrl wrote:
Of the existing KC Hopps restaurants, I can only speak to Barley's Brewhouse. I agree with you in that I personally find their food barely edible and, if I am in a group and everyone else wants to go there, I just go home. That said, the place seems to be packed most of the time so I'm not sure I understand your comment.
Well I guess I should have took my 20 gift card and went to the 75th St Brewery. Perhaps KCHopps should stick to expanding their incredibly successful Barley's Brewhause Concept nationwide rather than open new marginal restaurant concepts.
KCMax wrote:I've found all the KC Hopps food to be about the same. Its not terribly exciting, but its a decent lunch. A step above Applebee's for sure.
Really? I'd say they are at least 2 steps below Apple Bees in terms of food.
Damn, what's up with the KC Hopps hate? Their food is fine. Definitely better than your average national chain crap. Their concepts aren't going to win any James Beard awards, but for the most part they're decent enough. My biggest complaint is that the beer at 75th Street has been hit and miss (and too often miss) for years.
