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Re: OFFICIAL: Port Authority Riverfront Project

Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 9:45 pm
by KC_Ari
Have to find the actual file for the RFP to see what is actually required besides the parking garage.

Re: OFFICIAL: Port Authority Riverfront Project

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 11:43 am
by KCPowercat
Really wish they could figure out a way to make the Lydia RR crossing more viable. Trains sit there constantly (or going 1 MPH) making it unusable. NE Industrial could be much better used if they could figure out that crossing.

Re: OFFICIAL: Port Authority Riverfront Project

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 12:00 pm
by Pork Chop
KCPowercat wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 11:43 am Really wish they could figure out a way to make the Lydia RR crossing more viable. Trains sit there constantly (or going 1 MPH) making it unusable. NE Industrial could be much better used if they could figure out that crossing.
I know it may not be a priority for the city, but I wonder how much it would cost and if it's even possible to raise N Lydia Ave over the tracks shortly after passing Guinotte Ave

Re: OFFICIAL: Port Authority Riverfront Project

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 3:43 pm
by Cratedigger
KCPowercat wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 11:43 am Really wish they could figure out a way to make the Lydia RR crossing more viable. Trains sit there constantly (or going 1 MPH) making it unusable. NE Industrial could be much better used if they could figure out that crossing.
Pretty sure port Kc and Columbus park are working on a pedestrian connector to the riverfront

Re: OFFICIAL: Port Authority Riverfront Project

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 6:58 pm
by KCPowercat
Cratedigger wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 3:43 pm
KCPowercat wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 11:43 am Really wish they could figure out a way to make the Lydia RR crossing more viable. Trains sit there constantly (or going 1 MPH) making it unusable. NE Industrial could be much better used if they could figure out that crossing.
Pretty sure port Kc and Columbus park are working on a pedestrian connector to the riverfront
Hadn't heard this. Nice. RR okay with it?

Re: OFFICIAL: Port Authority Riverfront Project

Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 10:10 am
by taxi
KCPowercat wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 6:58 pm
Cratedigger wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 3:43 pm
KCPowercat wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 11:43 am Really wish they could figure out a way to make the Lydia RR crossing more viable. Trains sit there constantly (or going 1 MPH) making it unusable. NE Industrial could be much better used if they could figure out that crossing.
Pretty sure port Kc and Columbus park are working on a pedestrian connector to the riverfront
Hadn't heard this. Nice. RR okay with it?
I've been hearing this for over 20 years.

Re: OFFICIAL: Port Authority Riverfront Project

Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 10:23 am
by Cratedigger
https://www.marc.org/news/transportatio ... ble-places
Berkley Riverfront Connectivity Study — a planning and connectivity study for the Berkley Riverfront area of Columbus Park in Kansas City, Missouri. Awarded $135,000.

Re: OFFICIAL: Port Authority Riverfront Project

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 7:16 am
by Cratedigger
Cratedigger wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 10:23 am https://www.marc.org/news/transportatio ... ble-places
Berkley Riverfront Connectivity Study — a planning and connectivity study for the Berkley Riverfront area of Columbus Park in Kansas City, Missouri. Awarded $135,000.
https://cityscenekc.com/study-looks-a ... bus-park/

Re: OFFICIAL: Port Authority Riverfront Project

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 5:18 pm
by KC_Ari
There was people at the riverfront park this evening doing a survey for this study.

Re: OFFICIAL: Port Authority Riverfront Project

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 6:43 pm
by KCPowercat
the survey questions didn't seem to cover the connection of CP to riverfront at all. Only asked what like to do at the riverfront and how often you go and how you get there?

Re: OFFICIAL: Port Authority Riverfront Project

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 8:18 pm
by KC_Ari
Yeah. No real direct questions. They mostly asked about how often I used the park, how I got there, how far I came from, etc. There is a map you can add pins to and a survey with text fields here, if anyone hasn't seen it: https://burnsmcd.mysocialpinpoint.com/r ... ity-study/

Re: OFFICIAL: Port Authority Riverfront Project

Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 8:24 am
by GRID
Would be nice if the RR would re-align the tracks south of Berkley Parkway to free up land for development on the south side of the roadway. But that's probably not very likely.

Re: OFFICIAL: Port Authority Riverfront Project

Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 4:26 pm
by dukuboy1
what options do they have for realignment? I know there are a few set of tracks in the area.

Re: OFFICIAL: Port Authority Riverfront Project

Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 5:50 pm
by FangKC
They could probably move tracks. There is room to replace those tracks in the right-of-way to the south. I believe there actually used to be more lines of track (on the south segment anyway) that were removed. One of the big switching rail yards in the East Bottoms was shut down to heavy use not long ago, so I would think the amount of traffic on those lines would also be reduced.

https://northeastnews.net/pages/union-p ... northeast/

https://www.google.com/maps/search/Neff ... ?entry=ttu

Re: OFFICIAL: Port Authority Riverfront Project

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 11:59 am
by KCPowercat
I feel there is no way you are getting railroad to move anything unless there is some sort of benefit to them. They don't ever give up that asset

Re: OFFICIAL: Port Authority Riverfront Project

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 12:20 pm
by KC_Ari
Let them keep the land the RR tracks were on and lease it to whomever might develop it?

Re: OFFICIAL: Port Authority Riverfront Project

Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 2:13 am
by FangKC
KCS gave up the 2nd and Wyandotte yard where there are two different apartment complexes now.

Re: OFFICIAL: Port Authority Riverfront Project

Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 1:12 pm
by GRID
FangKC wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 5:50 pm They could probably move tracks. There is room to replace those tracks in the right-of-way to the south. I believe there actually used to be more lines of track (on the south segment anyway) that were removed. One of the big switching rail yards in the East Bottoms was shut down to heavy use not long ago, so I would think the amount of traffic on those lines would also be reduced.

https://northeastnews.net/pages/union-p ... northeast/

https://www.google.com/maps/search/Neff ... ?entry=ttu
Yeah, that's what I mean. Just move the ones to the north so they are closer to the ones to the south and free up the land along Berkley Parkway. Right now there is a lot of empty land. Probably used to be tracks at one time.

Re: OFFICIAL: Port Authority Riverfront Project

Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 10:10 am
by beautyfromashes
Inside Formula 1's Drive to Win the Hearts and Wallets of America
https://www.newsweek.com/2023/06/09/exc ... 03211.html

Anyone have a potential road track setup for a Kansas City Grand Prix? Berkley through the West Bottoms?

Re: OFFICIAL: Port Authority Riverfront Project

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:55 am
by alejandro46
Missouri – Kansas City Riverfront Rail Crossing Elimination Study (Up To $2,000,000)
Port Authority of Kansas City
The proposed project will support planning and project development work to eliminate three at-grade crossings on
Lydia Avenue. The Berkley Riverfront area is being revitalized through the development of commercial event
facilities, green spaces, and recreational opportunities, and it connects several neighborhoods to these access
points. The three crossings in question (UP, KCS, BNSF) are the only at-grade crossings on Lydia Avenue and have no
sidewalk or bicycle right-of-way. The Port Authority of Kansas City is providing a 20 percent non-Federal match.
$964,000 of this project funding amount qualifies for the statutory set-aside for Planning projects.
https://railroads.dot.gov/sites/fra.dot ... s_PDFa.pdf