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Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:58 am
by langosta
normalthings wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:20 pm Image

14 floors. These renderings are nowhere near as nice as the Reverb ones and iirc Arterra. Must be pretty early or unsure if they can make it work.

https://cityscenekc.com/apartment-tower ... rossroads/
What about the design is bad urbanism ?

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:15 am
by smh
TheLastGentleman wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:41 am
smh wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:11 am Love to approve incentive packages without any discussion of design. Not to be too crabby, but perhaps this kind of process is why the riverfront is turning into suburbia.
“Can we have incentives pls?”

“Ok, but do good urbanism.”

“No.”

“Ok, here’s your incentive.”
Precisely.

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:33 am
by TheLastGentleman
langosta wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:58 am
normalthings wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:20 pm Image

14 floors. These renderings are nowhere near as nice as the Reverb ones and iirc Arterra. Must be pretty early or unsure if they can make it work.

https://cityscenekc.com/apartment-tower ... rossroads/
What about the design is bad urbanism ?
My post was broad, but for this one specifically the 2 story parking podium, on the streetcar line, is pretty egregious. Do we know if there’s retail on the ground floor? Looks like there could be, but I hope it’s not like the WR building’s shallow “galleries”

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:03 am
by TheUrbanRoo
I must be the only one who likes the the building design. I think this one will look good when it’s completed rather than in the rendering only.

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:03 am
by smh
I definitely like the concept and the look of the tower, but I share concerns about the ground floor if only because we haven't heard details. To me it is always about the ground floor. As we try to rebuild a more dense, walkable environment it isn't enough to have residential density (though that is clearly a very important component) we also have to make sure we are creating places to walk to and pleasant walks between them. I continue to beat on the W&R project but it is a great example of a new building contributing very little to the street, doing almost nothing to promote walkability.

So, hopefully this project has access only from the alley and has proper ground floor space...but I'd like to hear details. Fool me once, etc etc etc

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:07 am
by Chris Stritzel
We need to keep an eye out for the development plan on Compass since the plans will eventually be uploaded there. I’m just hoping it doesn’t look as cheesy in real life as it does currently. Looks like a Miami Beach or Cancun hotel

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:24 am
by beautyfromashes
Sometimes I don’t get people on here. 1914 Main with its 1970s suburban steel siding is Amazing!, but this is horrible.

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 12:06 pm
by smh
beautyfromashes wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:24 am Sometimes I don’t get people on here. 1914 Main with its 1970s suburban steel siding is Amazing!, but this is horrible.
No one saying this is horrible. EDIT: Just cheesy apparently. I think it looks fine.

To Crossroads point, it does seem like the site to the south might eventually get redeveloped (particularly considering the parking lot). I wonder to what extent Copaken is considering that in the design.

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 3:48 pm
by langosta
ImageNot bad

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 4:31 pm
by Midtownkid
langosta wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 3:48 pm ImageNot bad
Looks great. I do wish they would save the little limestone façade and incorporate it into the new façade. Seems easy enough. Retail or some sort of ped interaction needs to be along Main.

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 4:36 pm
by FangKC
I'd be happier with this project if they were reusing the old bank facade as the entrance to the building. El Fango not happy about this.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CqF1SqUK ... _copy_link

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 5:05 pm
by neurosyphilis
I'd say anything is better than what's there now but fortune would somehow grant us another surface lot

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 5:31 pm
by smh
langosta wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 3:48 pm ImageNot bad
Show it to us from the ground levellll

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:27 pm
by missingkc
Once again, the BJ is calling this a "highrise". Would someone please send these people to school? And while they're there, please teach them some fundamental statistics and data presentation. And I mean, very fundamental.

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:32 pm
by langosta
missingkc wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:27 pm Once again, the BJ is calling this a "highrise". Would someone please send these people to school? And while they're there, please teach them some fundamental statistics and data presentation. And I mean, very fundamental.
This is a highrise per code

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:00 pm
by missingkc
Well, I think that's a misnomer. Don't you?

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:11 pm
by beautyfromashes
I assume the Space Odyssey monolith on the south side is the pool, or is that the entrance to the garage? What's the point of alleyways if you're not going to use them for garage entrances? I do like that it shows some color. Hopefully, we've moved past the dumb phase where everyone paints their residences black or white or a shade in between.

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:31 pm
by neurosyphilis
beautyfromashes wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:11 pm I assume the Space Odyssey monolith on the south side is the pool, or is that the entrance to the garage? What's the point of alleyways if you're not going to use them for garage entrances? I do like that it shows some color. Hopefully, we've moved past the dumb phase where everyone paints their residences black or white or a shade in between.
That's Michael's Fine Clothing (1830 Main). It's not part of the proposed development.

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:04 pm
by beautyfromashes
neurosyphilis wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:31 pm That's Michael's Fine Clothing (1830 Main). It's not part of the proposed development.
Image
No, talking about this building behind the two ferns.

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:07 pm
by langosta
beautyfromashes wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:04 pm
neurosyphilis wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:31 pm That's Michael's Fine Clothing (1830 Main). It's not part of the proposed development.
Image
No, talking about this building behind the two ferns.
That is Michaels