Re: OFFICIAL - Buck O'Neil Bridge
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:24 pm
We might have to name something else after Buck O'Neil.
We might have to name something else after Buck O'Neil.
I would rank this higher than the south loop lid for that exact reason -- more development space. Same for north loop.Highlander wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:55 pm Another blunder that the city should highly consider correcting is bringing the Heart of America approach down to grade level through the River Market and reconnect the River Market with Columbus Park. Eliminating the cloverleaf at the north loop and Heart of America approach would free up more space for the RM to expand into. Hell, even if it's just surface parking it would be a win relative to the unneeded cloverleaf there now.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1065793 ... ?entry=ttu
I could be way off on this, but from the pictures of the KC Streetcar maintenance facility expansion, it looks like it runs right underneath the HOA bridge.DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:45 pmI would rank this higher than the south loop lid for that exact reason -- more development space. Same for north loop.Highlander wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:55 pm Another blunder that the city should highly consider correcting is bringing the Heart of America approach down to grade level through the River Market and reconnect the River Market with Columbus Park. Eliminating the cloverleaf at the north loop and Heart of America approach would free up more space for the RM to expand into. Hell, even if it's just surface parking it would be a win relative to the unneeded cloverleaf there now.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1065793 ... ?entry=ttu
Thanks for the clarification, and that does make more sense since I deluded myself into thinking that the plan is to lower it right at the start of the bluff (between Cold Storage Lofts and the maintenance facility).
Why is this a blunder? It's still part of the overall plan after the bridge is done?Highlander wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:55 pm So when this project is complete, will it allow the RM area to develop further to the west and occupy the area now occupied by Broadway as an approach to the bridge? What will become of that space? Otherwise, this just seems like another poorly thought through blunder that we've made so often in the past, sacrifice the urban core for highways and their approaches and cloverleafs.
Another blunder that the city should highly consider correcting is bringing the Heart of America approach down to grade level through the River Market and reconnect the River Market with Columbus Park. Eliminating the cloverleaf at the north loop and Heart of America approach would free up more space for the RM to expand into. Hell, even if it's just surface parking it would be a win relative to the unneeded cloverleaf there now.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1065793 ... ?entry=ttu
Not sure what you are referring to here? Is there a concrete plan to remove the HOA bridge cloverleaf and replace it with simple ramps? Or remove the North Loop altogether? If so, when?KCPowercat wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:38 amWhy is this a blunder? It's still part of the overall plan after the bridge is done?Highlander wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:55 pm So when this project is complete, will it allow the RM area to develop further to the west and occupy the area now occupied by Broadway as an approach to the bridge? What will become of that space? Otherwise, this just seems like another poorly thought through blunder that we've made so often in the past, sacrifice the urban core for highways and their approaches and cloverleafs.
Another blunder that the city should highly consider correcting is bringing the Heart of America approach down to grade level through the River Market and reconnect the River Market with Columbus Park. Eliminating the cloverleaf at the north loop and Heart of America approach would free up more space for the RM to expand into. Hell, even if it's just surface parking it would be a win relative to the unneeded cloverleaf there now.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1065793 ... ?entry=ttu
The study is still ongoing. Definitely not deadHighlander wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:55 amNot sure what you are referring to here? Is there a concrete plan to remove the HOA bridge cloverleaf and replace it with simple ramps? Or remove the North Loop altogether? If so, when?KCPowercat wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:38 amWhy is this a blunder? It's still part of the overall plan after the bridge is done?Highlander wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:55 pm So when this project is complete, will it allow the RM area to develop further to the west and occupy the area now occupied by Broadway as an approach to the bridge? What will become of that space? Otherwise, this just seems like another poorly thought through blunder that we've made so often in the past, sacrifice the urban core for highways and their approaches and cloverleafs.
Another blunder that the city should highly consider correcting is bringing the Heart of America approach down to grade level through the River Market and reconnect the River Market with Columbus Park. Eliminating the cloverleaf at the north loop and Heart of America approach would free up more space for the RM to expand into. Hell, even if it's just surface parking it would be a win relative to the unneeded cloverleaf there now.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1065793 ... ?entry=ttu