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Re: Future Stadium Plans: Chiefs and Royals

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:36 pm
by earthling

Re: Future Stadium Plans: Chiefs and Royals

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:39 pm
by normalthings
funny that the world trusts us to host NFL Draft, weekly concerts, and other large events downtown but somehow 18,000 downtown at a Royals game is impossible for locals to comprehend.

Re: Future Stadium Plans: Chiefs and Royals

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:52 pm
by earthling
Not much substance. Sounds like they'll prefer E side of downtown to 18th/Vine based on criteria, expecting public/private partnership. Not really worth moving if not part of the energy of CBD or along streetcar. And if mostly publicly funded, might see too much pushback.

Re: Future Stadium Plans: Chiefs and Royals

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:59 pm
by alejandro46
Sounds like the big news is just that the Royals are publiclly admitting they are doing due dilligence on what to do, and that "downtown" is one option being evaluated. The will likely need a renewal of stadium sales tax either way. Sherman sure sounded like the team was happy where they were, but also said they put a lot of weight into improve the wellbeing and provide economic benefits to the community at large.

Re: Future Stadium Plans: Chiefs and Royals

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:04 pm
by AlkaliAxel
normalthings wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:39 pm funny that the world trusts us to host NFL Draft, weekly concerts, and other large events downtown but somehow 18,000 downtown at a Royals game is impossible for locals to comprehend.
This is such a great point.

This is also where you see a big divide within the younger & boomer generations in KC. The younger people have grown up seeing downtown as a fun place to be that can handle alot of activity, some of them have even gotten used to streetcar regularly. They have a "yes, we can" attitude because most of us have only seen success and growth downtown. Boomers and some middle aged people can't fathom or comprehend why anyone would want to be downtown or that it's really that great because in their day it was a dead zone and black hole. They're the locals who have grown up and always lived here thinking KC is still the same generic, un-dynamic waste that "can't possibly do xyz"

I would say you can even see that divide on Kcrag as well with generations on almost every issue.

Re: Future Stadium Plans: Chiefs and Royals

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:05 pm
by AlkaliAxel
alejandro46 wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:59 pm Sounds like the big news is just that the Royals are publiclly admitting they are doing due dilligence on what to do, and that "downtown" is one option being evaluated. The will likely need a renewal of stadium sales tax either way. Sherman sure sounded like the team was happy where they were, but also said they put a lot of weight into improve the wellbeing and provide economic benefits to the community at large.
If he's really buying into doing the economic benefits for the city, then there's no way they stay at TSC.

Re: Future Stadium Plans: Chiefs and Royals

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:21 pm
by earthling
Curious that the mayor hyped up as news of the day unless there's other big news today?

Re: Future Stadium Plans: Chiefs and Royals

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:32 pm
by earthling

Re: Downtown ballpark and condos

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:41 pm
by Anthony_Hugo98
Goonies wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:15 pm
GRID wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:39 pm
normalthings wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:53 pm new stadium may be announced later this afternoon
Jazz District?
That would be an idiotic idea
Respectfully disagree

Re: Downtown ballpark and condos

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:53 pm
by FangKC
No real announcement. Just comments saying they were considering downtown as a location.

https://www.kshb.com/sports/report-kan ... wn-stadium

Re: Downtown ballpark and condos

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:13 pm
by earthling
^A bit anticlimactic but some media still spinning as best as they can for clicks. See front page of Star.

Re: Downtown ballpark and condos

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:24 pm
by GRID
How was that press conference worthy or a great day for KC?

Royals: We are looking at our options.

KC: Goes anti downtown stadium crazy as usual.

Re: Future Stadium Plans: Chiefs and Royals

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:37 pm
by AlkaliAxel
KSHB reporter Aaron Ladd posted a poll on Twitter asking “Should the Royals move downtown?” that has 700 votes so far, and results are:
55% yes
34% no
11% indifferent

Re: Future Stadium Plans: Chiefs and Royals

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:39 pm
by Riverite
About what I’d expect, Give people cool renderings and sell the dream it’ll come up

Re: Future Stadium Plans: Chiefs and Royals

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:55 pm
by AlkaliAxel
KC Star reporter Jeff Rosen released early results of their poll on Royals tailgating:
How important is tailgating to you?
57.2% not important at all
28% somewhat
14.8% very important


One by one all their nimby arguments get brought down by data

Re: Downtown ballpark and condos

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:59 pm
by KCPowercat
GRID wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:58 pm Still don't see how they do it when 80-90% of the fans don't want it. It will be interesting to see what they have come up with.
This is not accurate.

Re: Downtown ballpark and condos

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:00 pm
by KCPowercat
This was simply them getting the convo started. As they explore more they knew that would get out anyways so start prepping people now.

Re: Downtown ballpark and condos

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:07 pm
by GRID
KCPowercat wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:59 pm
GRID wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:58 pm Still don't see how they do it when 80-90% of the fans don't want it. It will be interesting to see what they have come up with.
This is not accurate.
You may be right, but good god, the people that don't want it are super vocal about it. Maybe it's closer to 70% that don't want it. I don't thin it's anywhere near half.

I know you can't base anything off social media platforms, but it's close to 90% on social media.

Re: Downtown ballpark and condos

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:23 pm
by KCPowercat
I'd bet the majority are for it. Social media is a super poor way to judge anything public opinion wise.

Re: Downtown ballpark and condos

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:35 pm
by aknowledgeableperson
KCPowercat wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:23 pm I'd bet the majority are for it. Social media is a super poor way to judge anything public opinion wise.
Majority of who? I think it all depends on where the people live who take the poll. If it is of people who live in central KC it just might be the majority. If it is all of KC residents it just might be around 50/50. If you have all of Jackson County, and the whole metro area, I would say a large majority would say no.