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Re: 2023 KCMO Election

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:06 pm
by normalthings
STL is already there with masks

Re: 2023 KCMO Election

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:19 pm
by shinatoo
Goonies wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:14 pm
normalthings wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:06 pm STL is already there with masks
I saw that and the AG filed a lawsuit so months of legal battles and wasted money. I'm vaccinated I wore my mask all the time last time around this time its kind of different I don't think this will help much if the goal is to get people vaccinated. The problem with this is the people who are against getting vaccinated were also the ones who didnt follow any of the protocols last year. People from all over the midwest think like this unfortunately and alot of them will visit KC too. This simply isnt going anyway.
This, and all the mandates so far, have been 100% about hospital capacity.

Re: 2023 KCMO Election

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:33 pm
by Chris Stritzel
normalthings wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:06 pm STL is already there with masks
The St. Louis County Council overrode County Executive Sam Page's mandate 5-2 tonight. Individual businesses in the County can now decide whether or not to require masks. Sam Page is planning to sue the council for this decision.

I imagine Eric Schmitt will take aim at KC now too.

Re: 2023 KCMO Election

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:19 am
by flyingember
Goonies wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 3:37 am I dont think this will be an election issue but for Lucas 2nd term I would like to see infill downtown, more development on the eastern part of downtown (new ballpark), and developing the edges of the plaza some more with expansion of the street car going down 39th and eastside (though I understand last time this was voted against)
How do you get owners to stop sitting on their land? It's one thing that if someone comes up with the secret method that works it needs to be sold to the council.

Re: 2023 KCMO Election

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:36 am
by Anthony_Hugo98
flyingember wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:19 am
Goonies wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 3:37 am I dont think this will be an election issue but for Lucas 2nd term I would like to see infill downtown, more development on the eastern part of downtown (new ballpark), and developing the edges of the plaza some more with expansion of the street car going down 39th and eastside (though I understand last time this was voted against)
How do you get owners to stop sitting on their land? It's one thing that if someone comes up with the secret method that works it needs to be sold to the council.
Incentivize development? Higher tax on unused properties?

Re: 2023 KCMO Election

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:28 pm
by normalthings
Ellington and Hall voted against masks

Re: 2023 KCMO Election

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:08 pm
by flyingember
Anthony_Hugo98 wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:36 am
flyingember wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:19 am
Goonies wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 3:37 am I dont think this will be an election issue but for Lucas 2nd term I would like to see infill downtown, more development on the eastern part of downtown (new ballpark), and developing the edges of the plaza some more with expansion of the street car going down 39th and eastside (though I understand last time this was voted against)
How do you get owners to stop sitting on their land? It's one thing that if someone comes up with the secret method that works it needs to be sold to the council.
Incentivize development? Higher tax on unused properties?
The problem is that assumes two things

1. That it’s actually unused. What if someone buys the land next to them in order to maintain it as green space to enjoy?
2. That unused is the preferred state. Why would we punish someone who owns land, pays the taxes on time but can’t get a bank to loan money?

Forcing someone to sell land doesn’t work either, the land could be collateral on a loan, tied up in the courts or similar.

Re: 2023 KCMO Election

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:17 am
by flyingember
Goonies wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:31 am
normalthings wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:28 pm Ellington and Hall voted against masks
Would love to know Ellingtons reasoning
he has an at large seat. can't get re-elected without citywide support and if he's primary challenged it will take northland support to keep the seat

I have no idea, but it's plausible

Re: 2023 KCMO Election

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:13 pm
by normalthings
Council Agenda has been down for the past 2-3 weeks for me. Anyone else have this problem?

Re: 2023 KCMO Election

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:28 pm
by kboish
normalthings wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:13 pm Council Agenda has been down for the past 2-3 weeks for me. Anyone else have this problem?
Clerk has a new website.

You can navigate to it through the city’s website.

Re: 2023 KCMO Election

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:37 pm
by kboish

Re: 2023 KCMO Election

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:39 pm
by normalthings
new website is hard to use. Can anyone explain it to me

Re: 2023 KCMO Election

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:05 pm
by KCKev
normalthings wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:39 pm
new website is hard to use. Can anyone explain it to me
What are you find hard? I'm using low end Obama phone and seemed easy enough. List view or calander mode.
Calander mode if you need separation of times on that day.

Re: 2023 KCMO Election

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:30 am
by normalthings
KCKev wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:05 pm
normalthings wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:39 pm
new website is hard to use. Can anyone explain it to me
What are you find hard? I'm using low end Obama phone and seemed easy enough. List view or calander mode.
Calander mode if you need separation of times on that day.
Every date was blank for me before. They show up now. Is council just not meeting this month?

Why the shift to this new website?

Re: 2023 KCMO Election

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 11:22 am
by beautyfromashes
Why can't Cleaver get a law passed to end state control of local police departments? The Democrats control the House, Senate and President. I can't imagine any Democrats would be against it since it would only affect Kansas City.

Re: 2023 KCMO Election

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 11:30 am
by Anthony_Hugo98
beautyfromashes wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 11:22 am Why can't Cleaver get a law passed to end state control of local police departments? The Democrats control the House, Senate and President. I can't imagine any Democrats would be against it since it would only affect Kansas City.
Because there aren’t any people who have the money with a vested interest in getting it passed is my guess

Re: 2023 KCMO Election

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:38 pm
by FangKC
It may be a states' rights issue. States may be the only authority with legal authority to intercede or have dominion over police or militias in their states. For example, governors are in control of the state national guard, not the president.

Re: 2023 KCMO Election

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:53 pm
by AlkaliAxel
Why is the city council growing increasingly fractured?

Re: 2023 KCMO Election

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:10 pm
by Anthony_Hugo98
Isn’t that what happens with big political entities over time?

Re: 2023 KCMO Election

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:56 pm
by im2kull
AlkaliAxel wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:53 pm Why is the city council growing increasingly fractured?
Because they're all pandering, posturing politicians.