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I can see protecting the Film Row, and many of the retail buildings, but I have no problem with some highrises being built on vacant lots in the Crossroads. It's part of the downtown business district, and I don't see why it should have some exemption. It's always going to be a case-by-case situation. I even balk at this "protect the view from the Kauffman Center" business.

I can even get behind demolition of Crossroads buildings for one if they are just plain one-story cinderblock warehouses.

One cannot expect to take one of the few neighborhoods in the City with a streetcar running through it, and then place a ban on new highrise construction in that same neighborhood. It defeats the whole purpose of creating density zones.

It also depends on what one is calling a highrise. I can see opposition to a 60-story building in some locations, but 10- to 15-story buildings seem reasonable in others.

rxlexi wrote:

We wouldn’t buy a lot and build a new glassy modern building in the crossroads.

Bummer.

I hope to see companies/investors other than Cordish get involved in new-build high-rise residential sooner than later.

I'll welcome all the Light towers we can get but additional players are needed if KC is to prove itself a vibrant downtown residential market, IMO.

Let's get the people building that 40 story mixed use tower in Des Moines to build stuff in KC. This tower is a hotel, offices, a movie theater, and apartments.

Ps. This tower sounds a lot like the 4 Light Block to me. Hopefully 4 Light Looks something like this.

FangKC wrote:One cannot expect to take one of the few neighborhoods in the City with a streetcar running through it, and then place a ban on new highrise construction in that same neighborhood. It defeats the whole purpose of creating density zones.

That's not what I said. It's not the what, it's the who.

Then who are these in opposition?

It's the who as far as the developer specifically

Guilty, but Crossroads is not where you’ll find the city’s highest rents...

I’m great with Cordish being in the Crossroads. It just seems like there is still so much to do in the CBD. But, if they want to do some bigger conversions like Tension Envelope, I’d be happy. Let the other developers handle the smaller conversions.

550' hotel/office/apartment tower rumored to be in the works for downtown STL.
50 story tower rumored for riverfront STL.

Wish Cordish did something like this for 4,5,6 Light. Even better, I'd like to see an outside developer come in and build like this downtown.

ldai_phs wrote:550' hotel/office/apartment tower rumored to be in the works for downtown STL.
50 story tower rumored for riverfront STL.

Wish Cordish did something like this for 4,5,6 Light. Even better, I'd like to see an outside developer come in and build like this downtown.

Honest question though: Do we want a massive tower to soak up that much demand?

smh wrote:

ldai_phs wrote:550' hotel/office/apartment tower rumored to be in the works for downtown STL.
50 story tower rumored for riverfront STL.

Wish Cordish did something like this for 4,5,6 Light. Even better, I'd like to see an outside developer come in and build like this downtown.

Honest question though: Do we want a massive tower to soak up that much demand?

Yes, sorta. I want multiple developers building high rises/towers here such as what's happening in STL. Additionally, I feel like 1-2 50 story towers would do more help bringing attention to downtown from other developers and such than it would hurt.

ldai_phs wrote:

smh wrote:

ldai_phs wrote:550' hotel/office/apartment tower rumored to be in the works for downtown STL.
50 story tower rumored for riverfront STL.

Wish Cordish did something like this for 4,5,6 Light. Even better, I'd like to see an outside developer come in and build like this downtown.

Honest question though: Do we want a massive tower to soak up that much demand?

Yes, sorta. I want multiple developers building high rises/towers here such as what's happening in STL. Additionally, I feel like 1-2 50 story towers would do more help bringing attention to downtown from other developers and such than it would hurt.

So we're shifting the demand curve you say. Sign me up.

ldai_phs wrote:550' hotel/office/apartment tower rumored to be in the works for downtown STL.
50 story tower rumored for riverfront STL.

Wish Cordish did something like this for 4,5,6 Light. Even better, I'd like to see an outside developer come in and build like this downtown.

That is the same tower "550' and 50 Floors". I think a large scale tower would do well in KC, just not in the Power and Light District. Where that Copaken Brooks tower was supposed to go Main Street, that is a good location.

Chris Stritzel wrote:

ldai_phs wrote:550' hotel/office/apartment tower rumored to be in the works for downtown STL.
50 story tower rumored for riverfront STL.

Wish Cordish did something like this for 4,5,6 Light. Even better, I'd like to see an outside developer come in and build like this downtown.

That is the same tower "550' and 50 Floors". I think a large scale tower would do well in KC, just not in the Power and Light District. Where that Copaken Brooks tower was supposed to go Main Street, that is a good location.

On Grand between sprint center and traders. Most prominent location left Downtown.

He maybe talking about the mythical 1034 Main building.

ah hell, it still lives on their site
http://copaken-brooks.com/1034-main-tower

KCPowercat wrote:ah hell, it still lives on their site
http://copaken-brooks.com/1034-main-tower

Last Updated: 05/08/2018

Hmmmmm

KCPowercat wrote:He maybe talking about the mythical 1034 Main building.

ah hell, it still lives on their site
http://copaken-brooks.com/1034-main-tower

Yes I was. Interesting it still is live.

Their mythical 13th and Grand property was just recently "updated" too. Never read into Copaken vapor buildings.

Chris Stritzel wrote:

ldai_phs wrote:550' hotel/office/apartment tower rumored to be in the works for downtown STL.
50 story tower rumored for riverfront STL.

Wish Cordish did something like this for 4,5,6 Light. Even better, I'd like to see an outside developer come in and build like this downtown.

That is the same tower "550' and 50 Floors". I think a large scale tower would do well in KC, just not in the Power and Light District. Where that Copaken Brooks tower was supposed to go Main Street, that is a good location.

As I understood it, they are 2 separate projects.

StrangerThings wrote:

ldai_phs wrote:550' hotel/office/apartment tower rumored to be in the works for downtown STL.
50 story tower rumored for riverfront STL.

Wish Cordish did something like this for 4,5,6 Light. Even better, I'd like to see an outside developer come in and build like this downtown.

As much complaining I see on here about a Cordish wall, I would assume the pushback of making 4 light 35+ would be an epic fail.

35+ floors would be great as long as the building looks completely different. The Monotonous Codish Wall is not because it's Cordish, it's because every building looks about the same. Do each building with completely different looks/external materials. It's as simple as that.

Lol - they do it for one reason only. $$$$$$