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some work getting done

cool pics, is there a garage or something to view this from?

GRID wrote: cool pics, is there a garage or something to view this from?

a parking lot for the red brick apartments you see in the second pic.  you can go there and take really good pics, you are right on top of the workers.

thanks for the pics schugg, i drive by there about once a week but rarely get a chance to get a good look inside, thanks for the view

Anybody else have more updates???  Since moving to the A, I sort of miss being able to get out and look at things for myself...

BVC wrote: Anybody else have more updates???  Since moving to the A, I sort of miss being able to get out and look at things for myself...

There's a big crane towering above the site now.

the floors are finally going up, slowly, but they are going up.  Last time i was by there i saw about 3 stories (?)

Sorry if this has been discussed, but why on EARTH are they building right behind Townsend place?

1>  That has to piss off the Townsend people, to now be looking right into a glass tower instead of Downtown

2>  who in 4646 wants to look into Townsend place either?

I don't get it.

pittsburghparoyal wrote: Sorry if this has been discussed, but why on EARTH are they building right behind Townsend place?

1>  That has to piss off the Townsend people, to now be looking right into a glass tower instead of Downtown

2>  who in 4646 wants to look into Townsend place either?

I don't get it.

1. Not all the views will be of Townsend Place.

2. The Townsend Place people threw a fit in the planning stages and some of the design got changed (I think there is discussion about it at the beginning of this post).

3. I think Townsend Place pretty much looks like ass. But there isn't a whole lot of difference between this and building a suburban house next to a very mediocre house. I think the location on the Plaza and the interesting design of this structure is more important to potential buyers than the immediate neighboring towers.

The website, www.4646broadway.com, has photos updated to the 6th floor forms.

hey guys for all of you that live near this project what is it looking like nice?  I haven't been able to go down to the plaza for weeks.

they just poured the 10th floor.  glass to start going in.  completion by end January 2007.

thanks

trailerkid wrote: 1. Not all the views will be of Townsend Place.

2. The Townsend Place people threw a fit in the planning stages and some of the design got changed (I think there is discussion about it at the beginning of this post).

3. I think Townsend Place pretty much looks like ass. But there isn't a whole lot of difference between this and building a suburban house next to a very mediocre house. I think the location on the Plaza and the interesting design of this structure is more important to potential buyers than the immediate neighboring towers.

besides, it's the freakin' plaza.  it's growing like gangbusters.  there is no reason to expect that an apartment will keep the same view.  not only is there no logical expectation for that, there is no legal expectation for it either.  it's just NIMBY whining.  the residents should have thought about this possibility when they plunked down $500,000 for a condo in kansas city's most successful high-rise residential district.

chrizow wrote:there is no reason to expect that an apartment will keep the same view.  not only is there no logical expectation for that, there is no legal expectation for it either.

Well put.  This region has virtual no precedent for viewshed protection.  People who buy property for the view need to take a look around for vacant lots or obsolete buildings that could someday be replaced with something taller.  They also need to look at the zoning and long range plans for the area.  In the case of the Plaza, the "urban bowl" plan has been around for decades, which calls for high rise development around the periphery of the Plaza.

Kansas Citians aren't used to thinking ahead about views because we've lost so much collective urban culture.  However, it's an important consideration just like a single-family homebuyer considers the location of neighbors, roads that might get expanded, lots that might get strip malls, etc.

pittsburghparoyal wrote: Sorry if this has been discussed, but why on EARTH are they building right behind Townsend place?

1>  That has to piss off the Townsend people, to now be looking right into a glass tower instead of Downtown

2>  who in 4646 wants to look into Townsend place either?

I don't get it.

Have you been to another urban area?  What would you like to see happen , circles of highrises around town?

Most people are not paying for the view and if they are, in an urban area, you have to know there will always be a chance of loosing it.

BTW, I visited with the architects on this project while in Denver, they are an awesome bunch and you should see some of the projects they are doing in other towns, I can only hope they do more "urban" stuff in KC (they are working on some suburban developments here too).

Oh and TK, what is wrong with Townsend?  Jeez...

GRID wrote: Oh and TK, what is wrong with Townsend?  Jeez...

It's a big, utilitarian box with balconies around it. It'd be a good candidate for a conversion into a lowbrow hotel.

trailerkid wrote: It's a big, utilitarian box with balconies around it. It'd be a good candidate for a conversion into a lowbrow hotel.

It just happens to be in the nicest area of the city. I agree it is UGLY! Unfortunately it has almost become an iconic building sitting high atop the area.

The website was recently updated again and shows 4646 is getting all grown up...

Drove by today and saw a few panes of glass installed on the east side of the building.  Looks really good, but I didn't have my camera with me.