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Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 10:35 am
by earthling

Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 8:14 pm
by dev49
A little surprised it took this long. hopefully bigger planes than a 737 in the future.

Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 9:27 am
by normalthings
dev49 wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 8:14 pm A little surprised it took this long. hopefully bigger planes than a 737 in the future.
Sounds like KCI will be a gateway and not a hub. With the large number of warehouses already here, it makes sense to me that they have limited need to air ship orders to KC.

Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 9:43 am
by flyingember
normalthings wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 9:27 am
dev49 wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 8:14 pm A little surprised it took this long. hopefully bigger planes than a 737 in the future.
Sounds like KCI will be a gateway and not a hub. With the large number of warehouses already here, it makes sense to me that they have limited need to air ship orders to KC.
A gateway is intermodal (plane to truck transfer), a hub is a single mode (plane to plane transfer). Other than that they're the same thing in the supply chain.

It's only going to be a gateway if they ship dramatically more to KC by air and it's the point trucks delivery to many midwest warehouses.

Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 11:52 am
by normalthings
Amazon Air 767 to SBD rumored.

Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 6:38 pm
by normalthings
Southwest added another daily LAX roundtrip.

Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 10:38 am
by normalthings
MCI to Portland back on Alaska

Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 4:59 pm
by FlippantCitizen
normalthings wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 10:38 am MCI to Portland back on Alaska
Yes my sister in law came in on that flight yesterday. Love having family in Portland and love a direct flight there almost as much.

Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Posted: Sun May 30, 2021 9:14 pm
by normalthings
MCI to Seattle being restored on Delta

Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:24 pm
by normalthings
Pitt getting Hanoi and Singapore Cargo flights. Wish KC was able to land more international cargo service.

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/uniqu ... eak-season

Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:19 am
by flyingember
normalthings wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:24 pm Pitt getting Hanoi and Singapore Cargo flights. Wish KC was able to land more international cargo service.

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/uniqu ... eak-season
and put the cargo where? there's no intermodal at the airport beyond a few small buildings

Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:52 pm
by normalthings
flyingember wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:19 am
normalthings wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:24 pm Pitt getting Hanoi and Singapore Cargo flights. Wish KC was able to land more international cargo service.

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/uniqu ... eak-season
and put the cargo where? there's no intermodal at the airport beyond a few small buildings
KCI has around 3 million sqft of <10 year old logistics space plus the Congress Centre nearby. Really hopeful that their plans for a new cargo ramp pan out.

Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:15 pm
by flyingember
normalthings wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:52 pm
KCI has around 3 million sqft of <10 year old logistics space plus the Congress Centre nearby. Really hopeful that their plans for a new cargo ramp pan out.
You really should use the actual name of a place. You're thinking of the KCI Intermodal Businesscentre

Page 4 has the map. Only six buildings for ~2.2 million square feet have been built
http://www.kcilogistics.com/wp-content/ ... ochure.pdf


Related, the company that setup the flights to Pittsburgh doesn't appear to own any warehouses at that airport, all they appear to do is handle logistics so everything is contracted out.

Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:30 am
by dev49
Southwest adding Saturday only to Cancun in November

Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:03 am
by normalthings
dev49 wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:30 am Southwest adding Saturday only to Cancun in November
American adding twice daily Austin flights.

Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:04 pm
by normalthings
Southwest is launching MCI to Boston once weekly. See this as an early move against JetBlue IND likely being re-instated soon

Cincinatti Business Journal reporting that Cincinatti-KC will be brought back on Delta next year.

Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:09 pm
by dev49
normalthings wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:04 pm Southwest is launching MCI to Boston once weekly. See this as an early move against JetBlue IND likely being re-instated soon

Cincinatti Business Journal reporting that Cincinatti-KC will be brought back on Delta next year.
I’m not sure once a week is going to do much.

Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:47 pm
by flyingember
dev49 wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:09 pm
normalthings wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:04 pm Southwest is launching MCI to Boston once weekly. See this as an early move against JetBlue IND likely being re-instated soon

Cincinatti Business Journal reporting that Cincinatti-KC will be brought back on Delta next year.
I’m not sure once a week is going to do much.

When your margins are tight losing ~15% of a route’s traffic and/or having to charge less to keep customer could mean not making money on the route at all each week.

Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:11 pm
by dev49
flyingember wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:47 pm
dev49 wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:09 pm
normalthings wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:04 pm Southwest is launching MCI to Boston once weekly. See this as an early move against JetBlue IND likely being re-instated soon

Cincinatti Business Journal reporting that Cincinatti-KC will be brought back on Delta next year.
I’m not sure once a week is going to do much.

When your margins are tight losing ~15% of a route’s traffic and/or having to charge less to keep customer could mean not making money on the route at all each week.
I think they will be okay. Or I guess they could always pull the route before it even starts because of a once a week flight that keeps them from making money. I’d be more worried about what Delta does if I were JetBlue.

Re: KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:46 pm
by normalthings
Re Boston: a weekly flight today is the first step to ramping to daily service in the 1 year pre-JetBlue .

With this weeks heat, I had heard that Southwest has added fuel stops in KC for some of Midway’s longer West Coast routes. The short runways at Midway prevent them from taking off with enough fuel