Big 12 Football 2009

phxcat · Post by **phxcat** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:17 pm

LenexatoKCMO wrote: This has to be one of the silliest attempts at a backhanded dig I have ever seen. "Ooh look how weak your program is, bringing in coachs who have recruited well but at bigger schools". Would it somehow be more impressive if we were hiring a bunch of dudes who had recruited poorly for programs no one had ever heard of?

The point is that these are above average, not great recruiters, and that you can recruit all you want- if the coaching is not there (and so far, there is no indication that it is) you still aren't going to win any games.

im2kull · Post by **im2kull** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:12 pm

phxcat wrote: The point is that these are above average, not great recruiters, and that you can recruit all you want- if the coaching is not there (and so far, there is no indication that it is) you still aren't going to win any games.

Example: Quinn Snyder

Example: Charlie Weiss

im2kull · Post by **im2kull** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:03 pm

A&M Plays tonight, you guys ready..I sure am! I don't see them winning, but eh..their new QB has gotten much better throughout the season..so who knows. Let's just hope that the Big 12 doesn't get off to the kind of start that the PAC 10 has gotten.

Post by **KCMax** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:13 pm

Mike Leach is out at Tech.

http://www.sportingnews.com/college-foo ... texas-tech

LenexatoKCMO · Post by **LenexatoKCMO** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:12 pm

KCMax wrote: Mike Leach is out at Tech.

http://www.sportingnews.com/college-foo ... texas-tech

Yeah didn't see how any other outcome was going to be possible on that one. Interesting that USF seems to so far have been successful attempting the good ol'fashioned sweep it under the rug and try wait it out approach with their own Coach Woody situation.

I suspect this change will be a far bigger blow for TT longterm than the Mangino departure will be for Kansas - how much of TT's recent cache is based solely upon the "The Mike Leach Football System" v. anything to do with the University or the armpit that is Lubock TX? Lets see TGill flex some of those alleged TX recruiting muscles and pick up some of the inevitable decommits.

im2kull · Post by **im2kull** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:01 pm

LenexatoKCMO wrote: I suspect this change will be a far bigger blow for TT longterm than the Mangino departure will be for Kansas - how much of TT's recent cache is based solely upon the "The Mike Leach Football System" v. anything to do with the University or the armpit that is Lubock TX? Lets see TGill flex some of those alleged TX recruiting muscles and pick up some of the inevitable decommits.

I don't see that happening when his succesor is going to run the same system. I highly doubt kansas had much to lose in the way of a "Status Quo" to begin with anyways. TT looses leach, doesn't mean they're not going to stop chucking the ball through the air everywhere they can.

LenexatoKCMO · Post by **LenexatoKCMO** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:34 pm

im2kull wrote: I don't see that happening when his succesor is going to run the same system.

Yeah but assuming they stick with the spread who are they going to bring in that will be able to continue recruiting that same level of talent to the dirty armpit of texas? Kids were going there because they wanted to play for the offensive genius Mike Leach not because they wanted to go to TT. Plus, its the South - flinch just a little bit in that division and you will find youself burried in an instant.

im2kull · Post by **im2kull** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:54 pm

LenexatoKCMO wrote: Yeah but assuming they stick with the spread who are they going to bring in that will be able to continue recruiting that same level of talent to the dirty armpit of texas? Kids were going there because they wanted to play for the offensive genius Mike Leach not because they wanted to go to TT. Plus, its the South - flinch just a little bit in that division and you will find youself burried in an instant.

You missed my point. Leech isn't that great of a recruiter, so I doubt the void will be hard to fill. For incoming athletes to Lubbock, its about the SYSTEM. Period. They run the same system as under Leech, they get the same recruits. Did I miss something there?

grovester · Post by **grovester** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:29 pm

Yeah, anybody can run the SYSTEM, why were they paying that guy at all?

im2kull · Post by **im2kull** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:32 pm

grovester wrote: Yeah, anybody can run the SYSTEM, why were they paying that guy at all?

Not saying that ANYONE can run the system, but IF someone DOES then why would that be a downside to the SAME recruits that were looking into a Leech run system?

eomaha.com · Post by **eomaha.com** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:40 pm

Goooooo Biiiiiiiig Reeeeed.

KCFutbol · Post by **KCFutbol** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:11 am

Not too bad of a performance. The offense was even better than mediocre.

eomaha.com · Post by **eomaha.com** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:16 am

Nice time to break out the Rex Burkhead wildcat.

jdubwaldo · Post by **jdubwaldo** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:14 pm

How about those Huskers? I almost felt sorry for Arizona. ALMOST.

eomaha.com · Post by **eomaha.com** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:02 pm

What the hell... Mizzou is losing to a service academy?

AllThingsKC · Post by **AllThingsKC** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:54 pm

eomaha.com wrote: What the hell... Mizzou is losing to a service academy?

Yeah, if only Mizzou would have had 60 minutes and one second to win the game.

But, seriously though. I saw this coming last January:

AllThingsKC wrote: Mizzou Football: 8-5, Lose a Non-BCS Bowl. Still, the season will be seen as a sucess for MU fans.

Nebraska will win the Big 12 North in football.

eomaha.com · Post by **eomaha.com** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:09 pm

Hopefully ISU will pick up a win... Big 12 looking pretty weak.

NDTeve · Post by **NDTeve** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:52 pm

eomaha.com wrote: Hopefully ISU will pick up a win... Big 12 looking pretty weak.

Nebraska brought the heat. Mizzou looked undisciplined on D. Pretty much how ND looked against the Navy. You have to tackle 3 guys every play. Mizzou looked like idiots out there.

KCPowercat · Post by **KCPowercat** » Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:08 pm

1998 KSU Alamo Bowl = 2009 MU Texas Bowl

shaffe · Post by **shaffe** » Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:17 pm

KCPowercat wrote: 1998 KSU Alamo Bowl = 2009 MU Texas Bowl

How so? Two teams that feel further then they should have in the pecking order show up disinterested and get beat?

I can see that, but I honestly thought it was simply Navy lining up and beating Missouri. They played extremely well and executed at a much much higher level. The triple option is a bear to defend if the team running it executes as well as Navy did last night.

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