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Re: Main & Armour - Mac Properties

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:14 pm
by Chris Stritzel
Ha. The city knows what’s good for them.

Re: Main & Armour - Mac Properties

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:32 pm
by TheUrbanRoo
Why would they not start construction this till 2024?

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... rking.html

Re: Main & Armour - Mac Properties

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:44 pm
by FlippantCitizen
2024 not that far away all things considered. Wow, I'm glad this was approved. This is going to be the first big game changing project that is a direct result of the street car. Other sites such as 45th/44th and Main, the Cadillac dealership, Plaza tennis courts etc. have the potential for high density and low parking ratios. Bringing population and the accompanying services back to Midtown will be good for all of us who live here. Glad the city knows what's good for it and the neighborhood association nimby's were cut down to size.

Re: Main & Armour - Mac Properties

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:31 pm
by missingkc
Does the City Plan Commission have the final word?

Re: Main & Armour - Mac Properties

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:07 pm
by normalthings
missingkc wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:31 pm Does the City Plan Commission have the final word?
This will go to the full council next I think

Re: Main & Armour - Mac Properties

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:41 pm
by Chris Stritzel
UMKC Roo wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:32 pm Why would they not start construction this till 2024?

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... rking.html
There are still supply chain shortages and labor might be hard to come by, complicating a construction process. Waiting another 13 months or so also gives US Bank the ability to search for a new home, interest rates to come down, the current volatility in the economy to settle a bit, and materials to be produced for later use in construction.

Re: Main & Armour - Mac Properties

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:00 am
by kboish
They mentioned during CPC that the bank has a lease that goes into 2023. They said they will try to line up all their permits so they can be ready to go shortly after the bank vacates

Re: Main & Armour - Mac Properties

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:16 pm
by cityscenekc
The City Council Neighborhood, Planning and Development Committee is expected to consider the Mac rezoning next week: https://cityscenekc.com/macs-apartment- ... bjections/

Re: Main & Armour - Mac Properties

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:43 pm
by Chris Stritzel
Project held up at council planning committee over the neighborhood’s parking concerns. Fowler led opposition. Tabled until January 11th.

Re: Main & Armour - Mac Properties

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:04 pm
by Cratedigger
Chris Stritzel wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:43 pm Project held up at council planning committee over the neighborhood’s parking concerns. Fowler led opposition. Tabled until January 11th.
Yeesh

Re: Main & Armour - Mac Properties

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 6:05 pm
by Anthony_Hugo98
Chris Stritzel wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:43 pm Project held up at council planning committee over the neighborhood’s parking concerns. Fowler led opposition. Tabled until January 11th.
What a fucking joke. It isn’t even Fowlers district…

Re: Main & Armour - Mac Properties

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:13 pm
by Chris Stritzel
Chris Stritzel wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:43 pm Project held up at council planning committee over the neighborhood’s parking concerns. Fowler led opposition. Tabled until January 11th.
Advanced unanimously today. Project scope shrunk to 300 units from 325 and parking increased from 183 to 191 spaces (but plans I shared a few pages ago mentioned 194 spaces). An enforceable request was added to approval to prevent residents from parking in the neighborhood.

Re: Main & Armour - Mac Properties

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:19 pm
by beautyfromashes
Chris Stritzel wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:13 pm Advanced unanimously today. Project scope shrunk to 300 units from 325 and parking increased from 183 to 191 spaces (but plans I shared a few pages ago mentioned 194 spaces). An enforceable request was added to approval to prevent residents from parking in the neighborhood.
And this is how apartments become more unaffordable. Can't blame MAC for it.

Re: Main & Armour - Mac Properties

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:23 pm
by Pastense
Another victory for KCtenants! No affordable apartments here! Could have had 70.

Re: Main & Armour - Mac Properties

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:29 pm
by TheUrbanRoo
Nice. Now can we the FAA hurry up already and give us word on the River Market. Jfc we're way past time for answer on that one now.

Re: Main & Armour - Mac Properties

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:42 pm
by Chris Stritzel
UMKC Roo wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:29 pm Nice. Now can we the FAA hurry up already and give us word on the River Market. Jfc we're way past time for answer on that one now.
The FAA thing was settled, I just didn't post about it, but I will.

Re: Main & Armour - Mac Properties

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:46 pm
by earthling
Pastense wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:23 pm Another victory for KCtenants! No affordable apartments here! Could have had 70.
Could be partly KCtenants but as mentioned the neighborhood cried too about size and not enough parking. Appears that neighborhood feedback had much more to do with it.

Midtown needs to grow past the transition from desiring car-dependent suburbia last 50+ years and accept density, especially tower projects directly on streetcar line. Midtowners who desire car depedency need to move to suburbia as the amount of urban living options in KC is tiny while there are 95% more car lifestyle options for them elsewhere in metro, even most of city proper.

The City shouldn't give in to these types of neighborhood demands, let them move as there will be plenty transit oriented people to buy their homes at a premium once streetcar up and running. That said, Midtown should probably start to adopt permit street parking.

Re: Main & Armour - Mac Properties

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 6:36 pm
by DaveKCMO
It’s hard to tell your constituents to move.

Re: Main & Armour - Mac Properties

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 6:55 pm
by earthling
Don't have to directly tell them that, just don't cater to those wanting to turn Midtown into suburbia.

Re: Main & Armour - Mac Properties

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 7:15 pm
by TheLastGentleman
Kc tenants is really going to be this board’s scapegoat for everything, isn’t it