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BREAKING: Cable news is irrelevant.

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For those who think the current political climate in Washington DC is bad.

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Voters trust Clinton over GOP on Benghazi
While voters overall may think Congress' focus should be elsewhere there's no doubt about how mad Republicans are about Benghazi. 41% say they consider this to be the biggest political scandal in American history

One interesting thing about the voters who think Benghazi is the biggest political scandal in American history is that 39% of them don't actually know where it is. 10% think it's in Egypt, 9% in Iran, 6% in Cuba, 5% in Syria, 4% in Iraq, and 1% each in North Korea and Liberia with 4% not willing to venture a guess.
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Wonder what the numbers were right after the Watergate break-in.
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aknowledgeableperson wrote:Wonder what the numbers were right after the Watergate break-in.
I would bet almost no one knew where Bengazi was right after Watergate.
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aknowledgeableperson wrote:Wonder what the numbers were right after the Watergate break-in.
I still don't get the comparison of the two at this point. Watergate involved actual criminal activity. If we want to spend US resources investigating and complaining about the things that we "don't know didn't happen," we will be going through every wacko conspiracy ever imagined by opposition majorities to the President. If something more damaging to the Pres in a different arena came up, Benghazi would be dropped like a hot potato.
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bobbyhawks wrote:
aknowledgeableperson wrote:Wonder what the numbers were right after the Watergate break-in.
I still don't get the comparison of the two at this point. Watergate involved actual criminal activity. If we want to spend US resources investigating and complaining about the things that we "don't know didn't happen," we will be going through every wacko conspiracy ever imagined by opposition majorities to the President. If something more damaging to the Pres Hillary Clinton in a different arena came up, Benghazi would be dropped like a hot potato.
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Yeah, pretty clearly a "smear Hillary" political play to see what they can stick to her for 2016. Unfortunately (for Republicans) it will probably backfire and make them even less likable and Hillary even more likable. Sort of like what happened with her husband in the wake of the impeachment. Republicans don't have a great track record of making big scandals out of bullshit.
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KCMax wrote:
aknowledgeableperson wrote:Wonder what the numbers were right after the Watergate break-in.
I would bet almost no one knew where Bengazi was right after Watergate.

Just to be sure my point was that no one really cared about the Watergate break-in right afterwards but it did bring down a president. Who knows at this time what may or may not become of Bengazi but even the Dems on the Sunday news shows thought there is more to learn about what happened and how it might have been prevented.

Granted, a mountain is being made out of a molehill concerning the Susan Rice talking points but there is the possibility that warning signs were overlooked or ignored leading up to the deadly incident.
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aknowledgeableperson wrote:
KCMax wrote:
aknowledgeableperson wrote:Wonder what the numbers were right after the Watergate break-in.
I would bet almost no one knew where Bengazi was right after Watergate.

Just to be sure my point was that no one really cared about the Watergate break-in right afterwards but it did bring down a president. Who knows at this time what may or may not become of Bengazi but even the Dems on the Sunday news shows thought there is more to learn about what happened and how it might have been prevented.

Granted, a mountain is being made out of a molehill concerning the Susan Rice talking points but there is the possibility that warning signs were overlooked or ignored leading up to the deadly incident.
Also, nobody seems very upset about the parking ticket that Lindsey Graham got dismmissed last weekend. How deep does the cover up go! We just have no idea until all of the facts are known!

(I have no idea if he had a parking ticket or got one dismissed, but why is he refusing to tell the truth! This is just like 9/11 before we knew about 9/11 &&&)
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Bill Maher made a good point about Republicans attacking Hillary over Benghazi. He said go for it, because Hillary eats scandals for lunch.
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(I have no idea if he had a parking ticket or got one dismissed, but why is he refusing to tell the truth! This is just like 9/11 before we knew about 9/11 &&&)
There are at least two items that need to be studied further.
1) Other similar diplomatic outposts had been attacked so why wasn't security beefed up at the Bengazi outpost?
2) There was no plan in place to assist the personnel if the outpost came under attack.
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Senator Roy Blunt (R) of Missouri was the "Stooge of the Night" on the Late Show with David Letterman tonight for his unwillingness to support background checks for gun buyers--even though 85 percent of Missourians support it. Blunt has received $1.5 million in donations from the gun lobby.

This has been an ongoing nightly segment on the Letterman show for the past few weeks.
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aknowledgeableperson wrote:
(I have no idea if he had a parking ticket or got one dismissed, but why is he refusing to tell the truth! This is just like 9/11 before we knew about 9/11 &&&)
There are at least two items that need to be studied further.
1) Other similar diplomatic outposts had been attacked so why wasn't security beefed up at the Bengazi outpost?
2) There was no plan in place to assist the personnel if the outpost came under attack.
I agree this should be studied. However, former SecDef Robert Gates, certainly no partisan, dismissed the idea that any kind of elite Marines unit could have made it to Benghazi in time to provide any kind of real protection.
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This was in reality a CIA outpost so I am not sure how the security works for those types of locations. Whether or not a relief force could make it in time in this instance isn't so much an issue. The issue is why a relief plan wasn't in existence in the first place.
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Might have something to do with the ~$460 million that Republicans cut from embassy security in 2011 and 2012. Turns out all that money in the federal budget is actually used to pay for things. Who knew?
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aknowledgeableperson wrote:This was in reality a CIA outpost so I am not sure how the security works for those types of locations. Whether or not a relief force could make it in time in this instance isn't so much an issue. The issue is why a relief plan wasn't in existence in the first place.
If a relief force couldn't make it on time, there doesn't seem to be any point to having a relief plan.
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