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Tipsheet: Chargers (not Rams) headed to LA?
Knowing NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell as I do and how he has brokered deals in the past, I would not be surprised if he has already met and given his full blessings to Soon-Shiong.

If so, this makes this mega AEG sale all about football and the construction of a new stadium in downtown Los Angeles.

Philip Anschutz, the Denver recluse, has never really had an interest in football here. Or spending much time here.

His contentious discussions with owner Dean Spanos to bring the Chargers to Los Angeles have become a major hindrance in making good on plans to build a stadium downtown.

And the NFL is ready to return to Los Angeles whether we care or not.

Simers also noted that:

The 2-0 Chargers began this week with 12,000 unsold tickets for Sunday's game against Atlanta. The team will be free in a few months to buy its way out of San Diego and begin play elsewhere next season.
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Chargers to L.A. still doesn't stop the Rams from leaving St. Louis. St. Louis will still have to do it's part in upgrading the dome to certain specifications that both parties can agree upon.
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mykem wrote:Chargers to L.A. still doesn't stop the Rams from leaving St. Louis. St. Louis will still have to do it's part in upgrading the dome to certain specifications that both parties can agree upon.
If the Chargers go to LA before the Rams, where will the Rams go?
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Much like NY have two teams sharing one stadium some have speculated that the same will happen in LA.
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pstokely wrote:
mykem wrote:Chargers to L.A. still doesn't stop the Rams from leaving St. Louis. St. Louis will still have to do it's part in upgrading the dome to certain specifications that both parties can agree upon.
If the Chargers go to LA before the Rams, where will the Rams go?
Probably somewhere where there is already a nice stadium in place and no professional team. Kansas City perhaps?
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Yuck! Having the Chargers in San Diego works out great for the Chiefs because there are so many Chiefs fans attend the annual Chiefs/Chargers game there. Only at Arrowhead (and maybe the Edward Jones Dome) will you see more Chiefs fans. If the Chargers move to LA, that could suck for the Chiefs. They would basically lose their West Coast home.
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mykem wrote:Chargers to L.A. still doesn't stop the Rams from leaving St. Louis. St. Louis will still have to do it's part in upgrading the dome to certain specifications that both parties can agree upon.
If the Chargers go to LA before the Rams, where will the Rams go?
They probably could still move to LA.
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AllThingsKC wrote:Yuck! Having the Chargers in San Diego works out great for the Chiefs because there are so many Chiefs fans attend the annual Chiefs/Chargers game there. Only at Arrowhead (and maybe the Edward Jones Dome) will you see more Chiefs fans. If the Chargers move to LA, that could suck for the Chiefs. They would basically lose their West Coast home.
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mykem wrote:Chargers to L.A. still doesn't stop the Rams from leaving St. Louis. St. Louis will still have to do it's part in upgrading the dome to certain specifications that both parties can agree upon.
If the Chargers go to LA before the Rams, where will the Rams go?
They probably could still move to LA.
LA can't support 2 NFL teams, the population is there but not the interest on sunday 75 degree November days
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San Antonio? Omaha? Des Moines? Orlando? Birmingham? El Paso? Columbus? Milwaukee? Virginia Beach? San Jose? Ross Dress for Less?
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pstokely wrote:LA can't support 2 NFL teams, the population is there but not the interest on sunday 75 degree November days
That remains to be seen, if it happens. The reason for the two team talk is that the projected cost of the AEG proposed stadium only works if two teams play in the facility.
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San Antonio could be a great place for an NFL team. They're big on the Cowboys and Longhorns down there, I bet they'd support a local NFL franchise pretty well. Hell, it's a good sized metro and all they have is the Spurs.
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mean wrote:San Antonio could be a great place for an NFL team. They're big on the Cowboys and Longhorns down there, I bet they'd support a local NFL franchise pretty well. Hell, it's a good sized metro and all they have is the Spurs.
Tom Benson, and the Saints would've relocated there in 2005 if it wern't for the NFL grabbing him by the arm as if he were a child and told him to get his ass back to New Orleans!
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AllThingsKC wrote:San Antonio? Omaha? Des Moines? Orlando? Birmingham? El Paso? Columbus? Milwaukee? Virginia Beach? San Jose? Ross Dress for Less?

San Antonio is Cowboys territory, (also Texans)
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mykem wrote:
mean wrote:San Antonio could be a great place for an NFL team. They're big on the Cowboys and Longhorns down there, I bet they'd support a local NFL franchise pretty well. Hell, it's a good sized metro and all they have is the Spurs.
Tom Benson, and the Saints would've relocated there in 2005 if it wern't for the NFL grabbing him by the arm as if he were a child and told him to get his ass back to New Orleans!
Would Jerry care if some other team tried to move in his territory? Would San Antonio pay attention to a non-Texas team?
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mean wrote:San Antonio could be a great place for an NFL team. They're big on the Cowboys and Longhorns down there, I bet they'd support a local NFL franchise pretty well. Hell, it's a good sized metro and all they have is the Spurs.
The Alamodome was built for the express purpose of landing an NFL team. That was a couple of decade ago though. The Vikings and Saints have both flirted with moving there.
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KCMax wrote:
mean wrote:San Antonio could be a great place for an NFL team. They're big on the Cowboys and Longhorns down there, I bet they'd support a local NFL franchise pretty well. Hell, it's a good sized metro and all they have is the Spurs.
The Alamodome was built for the express purpose of landing an NFL team. That was a couple of decade ago though. The Vikings and Saints have both flirted with moving there.
it probably needs upgrades, like the Edward Jones dome. San Antonio is just a pawn for the NFL, like KC is for the NHL.
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pstokely wrote:
KCMax wrote:
mean wrote:San Antonio could be a great place for an NFL team. They're big on the Cowboys and Longhorns down there, I bet they'd support a local NFL franchise pretty well. Hell, it's a good sized metro and all they have is the Spurs.
The Alamodome was built for the express purpose of landing an NFL team. That was a couple of decade ago though. The Vikings and Saints have both flirted with moving there.
it probably needs upgrades, like the Edward Jones dome. San Antonio is just a pawn for the NFL, like KC is for the NHL.
Agreed.
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The only thing left will be attracting a team. Or two.
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A new stadium for the St. Louis Rams?
An ocean of broken concrete stretches from the interstate to the hills at the demolished Chrysler plant in Fenton. A lone road splits the 300-acre lot, surrounded by thousands of parking spaces.
Twenty miles north, an equivalent swath of land, but filled with corn fields and muddy roads, reaches from the new extension of Highway 141 toward the Missouri River in Maryland Heights.

And another 20 miles east from there, empty lots just north of the Edward Jones Dome in downtown St. Louis sit waiting for tailgaters.

Those are good images to keep in mind as the St. Louis Rams enter arbitration this week over the Dome. The three sites have long been discussed as possible homes for a new stadium — maybe even one for the Rams.
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If Chargers Move To Los Angeles, It Won’t Be In 2013
That’s the upshot of momentum-less franchise movement talks among the shaky teams — the Raiders and Chargers, most notably — as the new year approaches. In June, commissioner Roger Goodell laid out a scenario whereby a team would be allowed to move to Los Angeles, and a source at the league meetings in Dallas last week told me none of the tenuous teams are close to meeting the requisites. A team wanting to move would have to demonstrate these three conditions:
1. A team has to establish market failure where it now plays.
2. A new stadium deal would have to be in place in Los Angeles with the moving franchise. Four sites — downtown, Chavez Ravine, Carson or City of Industry — are possible landing spots for a relocated franchise.
3. An interim stadium deal — at the Rose Bowl or Coliseum — would have to be in place for the 2013 season and beyond.
As of Thursday, I’m told no team had satisfied any of the three conditions, and none is in serious discussions for a temporary place to play while a new stadium is built. Though the window for satisfying all three conditions is open until Feb. 15, progress has been nil, and it’s now impossible that a team could get all three things done in the next eight weeks. That means we won’t see a resolution on a new team for Los Angeles until early 2014, at the earliest.
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