OFFICIAL: Port Authority Riverfront Project

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langosta wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 8:12 pm
GRID wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 7:54 pm Just to add since I tend to get hate for posts like the one above.

I think KC does have some little pockets of urban activity where sidewalks are busy, cafes have busy outside seating, lots of people out running, biking, etc. but KC Is just so spread out, even in the center city, that it always feels empty of people. It's just going to take a lot of infill to really get the critical mass to support things like walkable retail, especially in the downtown loop. KC needs tons of infill. If the streetcar line can spur 10% of what has happened in LoDo Denver or South End Charlotte etc, then you will start to see more urban amenities.

But a five over one going up at 29th and Main, one in the west bottoms, one on the river front... Going to take a while. Need developments like that proposed MAC project at Linwood and Main up and down the streetcar line, a bunch going up at once. Then the high-rises and retail will start coming.
I think I said here a few years ago that RM-CC is going to need closer to 100k residents to feel continuously vibrant with strong retail
I would agree with that. Or maybe even 75k.
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beautyfromashes wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 6:49 pm I looked up the developer of the KC Current area. Marquee Development looks pretty good! I like the look of their entire portfolio. Any chance they could be the developer of the Royals new stadium buildings? With them and Somera Road in the West Bottoms we're starting to get some better options to rebuild downtown. Hopefully, they expand from their current build outs and don't just sit on the items they've already built out.

https://www.marqueedevelopment.com/portfolio
The introduction has been made. Idk how far along talks are though
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Cratedigger wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 10:41 pm
beautyfromashes wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 6:49 pm I looked up the developer of the KC Current area. Marquee Development looks pretty good! I like the look of their entire portfolio. Any chance they could be the developer of the Royals new stadium buildings? With them and Somera Road in the West Bottoms we're starting to get some better options to rebuild downtown. Hopefully, they expand from their current build outs and don't just sit on the items they've already built out.

https://www.marqueedevelopment.com/portfolio
The introduction has been made. Idk how far along talks are though
Wishing them luck then.
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TheUrbanRoo wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 7:34 pm Is it possible that Cordish is very skilled at developing towers & housing but also kinda crappy at leasing retail
Cordish got started over 100 years ago in leasing. For over 75 years they were primarily commercial landlords specializing in strip malls, shopping malls and what not. So considering they're one of it not the oldest family owned development company in the country, I don't think the leasing struggles (if you want to call them that) in PNL are related to the their ability to lease retail.

PNL is never going to be a major retail shopping destination. Not with the Plaza close by. PNL can have some small retail but it's heavy on the work, play, live side of things. I think we all want retail but retail wants the Plaza. That's fine, Plaza can be where you go cloths shopping and PNL can be where you go to have fun and be entertained. Some smaller retail that appeals to locals and tourist would work but I don't see chain clothing retail ever working long-term down there.

Cordish has only been building residential for something like 12 years.
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beautyfromashes wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 10:55 pm
Cratedigger wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 10:41 pm
beautyfromashes wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 6:49 pm I looked up the developer of the KC Current area. Marquee Development looks pretty good! I like the look of their entire portfolio. Any chance they could be the developer of the Royals new stadium buildings? With them and Somera Road in the West Bottoms we're starting to get some better options to rebuild downtown. Hopefully, they expand from their current build outs and don't just sit on the items they've already built out.

https://www.marqueedevelopment.com/portfolio
The introduction has been made. Idk how far along talks are though
Wishing them luck then.
Marquee is really good. I agree KC needs more developers to move things along.
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DColeKC wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 10:59 pm
TheUrbanRoo wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 7:34 pm Is it possible that Cordish is very skilled at developing towers & housing but also kinda crappy at leasing retail
Cordish got started over 100 years ago in leasing. For over 75 years they were primarily commercial landlords specializing in strip malls, shopping malls and what not. So considering they're one of it not the oldest family owned development company in the country, I don't think the leasing struggles (if you want to call them that) in PNL are related to the their ability to lease retail.

PNL is never going to be a major retail shopping destination. Not with the Plaza close by. PNL can have some small retail but it's heavy on the work, play, live side of things. I think we all want retail but retail wants the Plaza. That's fine, Plaza can be where you go cloths shopping and PNL can be where you go to have fun and be entertained. Some smaller retail that appeals to locals and tourist would work but I don't see chain clothing retail ever working long-term down there.

Cordish has only been building residential for something like 12 years.
Nobody expects pnl to be retail but something would be nice. Like a general retailer like a gap or something that helps downtown residents in the "live" category and also is there in a crunch for a visitor.
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KCPowercat wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 7:41 am
DColeKC wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 10:59 pm
TheUrbanRoo wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 7:34 pm Is it possible that Cordish is very skilled at developing towers & housing but also kinda crappy at leasing retail
Cordish got started over 100 years ago in leasing. For over 75 years they were primarily commercial landlords specializing in strip malls, shopping malls and what not. So considering they're one of it not the oldest family owned development company in the country, I don't think the leasing struggles (if you want to call them that) in PNL are related to the their ability to lease retail.

PNL is never going to be a major retail shopping destination. Not with the Plaza close by. PNL can have some small retail but it's heavy on the work, play, live side of things. I think we all want retail but retail wants the Plaza. That's fine, Plaza can be where you go cloths shopping and PNL can be where you go to have fun and be entertained. Some smaller retail that appeals to locals and tourist would work but I don't see chain clothing retail ever working long-term down there.

Cordish has only been building residential for something like 12 years.
Nobody expects pnl to be retail but something would be nice. Like a general retailer like a gap or something that helps downtown residents in the "live" category and also is there in a crunch for a visitor.
Yes, we would all love that including Cordish. We’ve talked about an urban Target for decades.
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Retail is hard all over, no doubt it's not an easy sell.
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Is Three Dog Bakery still happening?
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Midtownkid wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 11:13 am Is Three Dog Bakery still happening?
I believe the company was bought and the new owners are dragging their ass.
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Casino Springhill hotel. 2 design options.

Special 1% sales tax generated by the hotel and casino will help pay for its construction.
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Chris Stritzel wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 5:46 pm Two tower cranes of 200ft each submitted to the FAA for the Current's development. These will tick the crane count in the River to Plaza corridor up to 6. 1818 Main and the Health Delivery Building at 25th and Charlotte should get theirs before long.
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/se ... 198&row=13
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/se ... 199&row=14
The first sections of the two tower cranes arrived today.
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Thanks.

I wonder if future tax revenue can fund a pedestrian bridge to the Cliff Drive connector.
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Chris Stritzel wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 7:56 pm Casino Springhill hotel. 2 design options.

Special 1% sales tax generated by the hotel and casino will help pay for its construction.
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that's it? they really blew that opportunity. i expected more... this is crap, even in KC
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The lowest budget casino hotel in the region for the lowest budget casino
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They can't even connect it to the casino after all the renovations over the past few years??? AND need help funding the construction? Ridiculous.
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kcjak wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 8:15 am They can't even connect it to the casino after all the renovations over the past few years??? AND need help funding the construction? Ridiculous.
Port Authority doesn't do any analysis, as far as I know, on whether or not incentives are truly needed, or how much. The other agencies, like LCRA, do. It's been a concern for a long time. It's hard to know who they answer to.
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This particular establishment of a new incentive district is being reviewed by the City Council through a resolution.
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Stinks that this is the Hotel solution, but I think it fits well into the casino and its place in the KC marketplace. I believe it is 4th in gambling revenue for the MO side casinos and I'd assume 4th in total visitors and such. It's the smallest of the 4 on the MO side. IT's closest to downtown but I'm not sure it really benefits all that much. A simple small hotel is nice but my guess is a bigger hotel would have struggled. Perhaps if this one proves to be a money maker they maybe look to build something bigger. I think this is just the reality of development and them not wanting to get to far out over their skis.
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^Water skis, since it's a boat in a moat.
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dukuboy1 wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 11:24 am Stinks that this is the Hotel solution, but I think it fits well into the casino and its place in the KC marketplace. I believe it is 4th in gambling revenue for the MO side casinos and I'd assume 4th in total visitors and such. It's the smallest of the 4 on the MO side. IT's closest to downtown but I'm not sure it really benefits all that much. A simple small hotel is nice but my guess is a bigger hotel would have struggled. Perhaps if this one proves to be a money maker they maybe look to build something bigger. I think this is just the reality of development and them not wanting to get to far out over their skis.
I tend to agree. This location doesn’t work for a 4 or 5 star hotel. Just wish it had a more urban design.

The Casino’s owners are willing to invest more in the future based on demand. An outdoor amphitheater was proposed a few years ago.
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