Downtown Baseball Stadium

[UMKCroo]

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-c ... 29351.html

“Because the most meaningful long-term payout would be in finding a way to make it work the right way downtown — and keep Kansas City proper a major league city around which everything else here prospers.”

That’s the correct take. Thanks vahe, need more journalists and people of import to hammer it home.

[UMKCroo]

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-c ... 62401.html

What are the odds the Royals actually meet this new self-imposed deadline of June? I think there is actually a non-zero chance they remain at the K, simply because they aren't capable of making anything else happen. As others have noted, I would at least be able to stomach a NKC site, although just barely.

[beautyfromashes]

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-c ... 62401.html

What are the odds the Royals actually meet this new self-imposed deadline of June? I think there is actually a non-zero chance they remain at the K, simply because they aren't capable of making anything else happen. As others have noted, I would at least be able to stomach a NKC site, although just barely.

Unless they pay out a large amount to leave the TSC, I don't see Jackson County letting them out of their lease before it ends in 2031. The best financial sense for the Royals is to get out of that lease as soon as possible and start making additional revenue. That only happens downtown. And I would hope there would be zero concessions from the city. Northland council people will yell about it, but it needs to be clear that if money is expected from the city, even for residual needs, it has to be downtown. The council should make a unanimous declaration of such to give clarity to the team.

[kboish]

NKC is the least bad non-downtown site and I agree with what others have said that it is basically DT or like having it in Midtown. Could be cool to see some mid-rises dot NKC around the stadium. But what a huge L for KC and Jackson Co if they lose the team to another Missouri city. How is that even possible?

[Metro]

Ill start by saying Kevin Keitzman is a huge DB but he makes a good point here- It would cost them peanuts to help get White re-called and yet they haven't done it. This is a pretty good 2 minute clip.

https://x.com/kcmotalkradio/status/1912 ... Z9OOg&s=19

[iamrealz]

Ill start by saying Kevin Keitzman is a huge DB but he makes a good point here- It would cost them peanuts to help get White re-called and yet they haven't done it. This is a pretty good 2 minute clip.

https://x.com/kcmotalkradio/status/1912 ... Z9OOg&s=19

I've voted against White every opportunity I've had and put much of the blame for this situation on him. But funding a recall campaign based on him not supporting the teams, especially when a vote failed at the ballot box, sounds like a great way to make enemies around the city. I also have serious doubts a recall campaign would be successful.

[shinatoo]

Ill start by saying Kevin Keitzman is a huge DB but he makes a good point here- It would cost them peanuts to help get White re-called and yet they haven't done it. This is a pretty good 2 minute clip.

https://x.com/kcmotalkradio/status/1912 ... Z9OOg&s=19

I've voted against White every opportunity I've had and put much of the blame for this situation on him. But funding a recall campaign based on him not supporting the teams, especially when a vote failed at the ballot box, sounds like a great way to make enemies around the city. I also have serious doubts a recall campaign would be successful.

He should be recalled on the property tax fiasco alone.

[iamrealz]

Ill start by saying Kevin Keitzman is a huge DB but he makes a good point here- It would cost them peanuts to help get White re-called and yet they haven't done it. This is a pretty good 2 minute clip.

https://x.com/kcmotalkradio/status/1912 ... Z9OOg&s=19

I've voted against White every opportunity I've had and put much of the blame for this situation on him. But funding a recall campaign based on him not supporting the teams, especially when a vote failed at the ballot box, sounds like a great way to make enemies around the city. I also have serious doubts a recall campaign would be successful.

He should be recalled on the property tax fiasco alone.

I don't disagree that he should be. But people have been talking about recalling him over property taxes since 2019, he still got reelected. I don't think it makes political sense for the teams to challenge him on this, even if it makes sense financially.

[BrisbaneKC]

https://omny.fm/shows/pete-mundo-kcmo-t ... or-4-17-25

Mayor Lucas telling Pete Mundo he would be satisfied if the end result were to be the Royals in NKC and the Chiefs staying at Arrowhead.

I'm more becoming more and more of the belief that Lucas is now in damage limitation mode and seeking to protect his political reputation after the Crossroads debacle.

[TheUrbanRoo]

https://omny.fm/shows/pete-mundo-kcmo-t ... or-4-17-25

Mayor Lucas telling Pete Mundo he would be satisfied if the end result were to be the Royals in NKC and the Chiefs staying at Arrowhead.

I'm more becoming more and more of the belief that Lucas is now in damage limitation mode and seeking to protect his political reputation after the Crossroads debacle.

Oh no

[smh]

https://omny.fm/shows/pete-mundo-kcmo-t ... or-4-17-25

Mayor Lucas telling Pete Mundo he would be satisfied if the end result were to be the Royals in NKC and the Chiefs staying at Arrowhead.

I'm more becoming more and more of the belief that Lucas is now in damage limitation mode and seeking to protect his political reputation after the Crossroads debacle.

Grim.

[Highlander]

NKC is the least bad non-downtown site and I agree with what others have said that it is basically DT or like having it in Midtown. Could be cool to see some mid-rises dot NKC around the stadium. But what a huge L for KC and Jackson Co if they lose the team to another Missouri city. How is that even possible?

While I agree that it may be the least bad downtown site, it's much closer to a Johnson County or TSC site in terms of value to the metro than it is to an actual downtown stadium. NKC is close enough to downtown so that people attending games from out of town would still stay in downtown hotels. Other than that help it provides downtown, and perhaps the more central location, I don't think its a better site than Johnson County. In fact, take those two things away and Johnson County becomes the better option. NKC isn't urban. It's a low density warehouse/industrial district with a small, quiet but quaint downtown. It's too far from downtown to be walkable and there's no public transportation option. Would public transportation ever even be in the cards? Probably not if a dedicated bridge was required. If it comes down to NKC, it would be a massive failure for KC and yet another missed opportunity on a grand scale. The Royals need to just come out and say that Downtown is the ONLY option.

[KCPowercat]

yeah but as the mayor of a city it's indirect at best benefit to who you represent. Not great.

[Belvidere]

Imagine the river bridges if you have a Current and Royals game at the same time.

It's crazy not to put the stadium on a street car line. Just crazy.

I would hate this if I lived in North Kansas City.

[taxi]

Ingredion Stadium

[Rusty Irish]

NKC is the least bad non-downtown site and I agree with what others have said that it is basically DT or like having it in Midtown. Could be cool to see some mid-rises dot NKC around the stadium. But what a huge L for KC and Jackson Co if they lose the team to another Missouri city. How is that even possible?

While I agree that it may be the least bad downtown site, it's much closer to a Johnson County or TSC site in terms of value to the metro than it is to an actual downtown stadium. NKC is close enough to downtown so that people attending games from out of town would still stay in downtown hotels. Other than that help it provides downtown, and perhaps the more central location, I don't think its a better site than Johnson County. In fact, take those two things away and Johnson County becomes the better option. NKC isn't urban. It's a low density warehouse/industrial district with a small, quiet but quaint downtown. It's too far from downtown to be walkable and there's no public transportation option. Would public transportation ever even be in the cards? Probably not if a dedicated bridge was required. If it comes down to NKC, it would be a massive failure for KC and yet another missed opportunity on a grand scale. The Royals need to just come out and say that Downtown is the ONLY option.

Completely agree. And also for those who think NKC can become Wrigleyville, thats exactly the same as those who think you can build the Atlanta Battery in Johnson County. It ain't happening.

I tend to think Lucas has the right intentions at heart, but hes looking like a real problem now to me. I always doubted his effectiveness behind closed doors, but he would at least say the right things in my eyes. He too now looks likes hes getting bogged down in the state line crap and whats best for his career, as opposed to what is best for Kansas City. Hes looking every bit like a career politician at this juncture. Whoopdee doo you keep your two stadiums in Missouri, yeah, in two absolutely shit locations that does nothing for no one. And yet another entertainment destination in a city completely oversaturated with entertainment destinations. Good grief.

[beautyfromashes]

If NKC is their choice, they better not require a vote because there’s no way that passes. And Frank White will absolutely not let them out of their lease. He’ll make their life a living hell until the lease is over too, perhaps rightfully so.

[TheUrbanRoo]

Lucas says that the problem isn't leadership or even really getting the funding. He says the biggest overall problem for downtown now is just finding a site that has property for additional development. Hotels, towers, etc.

It's also very clear WSP is the only site they're even looking at. Problem he says is Crown Center is all completely owned by the Halls.

He also seemed to frame the battle as basically between NKC & downtown at this point. He says NKC advantage is they can just build whatever neighborhood they want from scratch and control it all. What downtown has going for it is the streetcar & existing amenities.

[KCPowercat]

I'm holding strong this is downtown.

[Steakum]

I wonder if Hallmark, HR Bloch, BC/BS and other dt companies are offering any input to the Royals org for the WSP site? Do they have any interest in helping in any way? Should they?

This is a once-in-a-lifetime decision and one that can really continue to make downtown and the region better. The critical mass established by the Royals at WSP could literally put downtown KCMO in a higher league when you consider the residential progress we've made. In 20 plus years of discussing a new MLB stadium in KC, WSP has always been the no-brainer location. It's not always been the leader, that's changed many times, but it's always been the steady turtle that now seems inevitable and if chosen and completed will prove that it should have always been the chosen location.