Streetcar Lofts at 31st and Walnut

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Off topic but does anyone have a link to the City 31st traffic calming project where the plans are published? Went looking with little success.
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bspecht wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:33 pm
Chris Stritzel wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 7:21 pm I'm sure we'll see more soon.
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Imagine 10 times this all over the blocks of Paseo West, 10 times more down Troost, and 10 times more down Linwood. Copy, paste, copy, paste.
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Yes. Obviously, they're shorter. But the general effect of this development reminds me of East Armour. Great addition to mid-town.
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missingkc wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 7:37 pm Yes. Obviously, they're shorter. But the general effect of this development reminds me of East Armour. Great addition to mid-town.
It's interesting that we might start seeing specific developer zones. MAC has planted their stake on Armour, Cordish did P&L and is expanding into the Crossroads, Somera in the West Bottoms... perhaps this developer focuses on 31st street and builds it up. What will be very, very interesting is when these developers' zones start to collide and overlap. That will be the start of very rapid change in this city, critical mass and a rush to control land and development opportunities.
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It is best when they do compete in the same areas because single developers in neighborhoods tend to use the same architectural firm and you get the same product filling the neighborhood.
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beautyfromashes wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 7:46 pm
missingkc wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 7:37 pm Yes. Obviously, they're shorter. But the general effect of this development reminds me of East Armour. Great addition to mid-town.
It's interesting that we might start seeing specific developer zones. MAC has planted their stake on Armour, Cordish did P&L and is expanding into the Crossroads, Somera in the West Bottoms... perhaps this developer focuses on 31st street and builds it up. What will be very, very interesting is when these developers' zones start to collide and overlap. That will be the start of very rapid change in this city, critical mass and a rush to control land and development opportunities.
A lack of national and maybe even local interest has meant a small handful of developers are left scouring the market.
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Yep.
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FangKC wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 12:56 amYep.
Just meant that there isn’t bidding competition like you’d see in other places. Someone like MAC can kinda run unchecked in an area. There also just isn’t much getting built - less than the local suburbs even.
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langosta wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:13 am
FangKC wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 12:56 amYep.
Just meant that there isn’t bidding competition like you’d see in other places. Someone like MAC can kinda run unchecked in an area. There also just isn’t much getting built - less than the local suburbs even.
Yes, right now we have too few developers, but we’re slowly starting to add and they appear to be successful with new product coming onboard. I’d guess/hope that this will continue with new ones filling in the gaps. There’s so much to develop that new companies can pick a place and work unchecked. But this can’t last forever. Cordish will start bumping into MAC in their “territory”, or Somera, or a new national developer. And developers run in packs. The first to come takes a huge rush but prove the opportunity for others that come. The risk is slowly removed until it’s a feeding frenzy, and it happens quick.
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longtimelistener wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:21 pm Off topic but does anyone have a link to the City 31st traffic calming project where the plans are published? Went looking with little success.
https://www.kcmoplanroom.org
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Passed Council today.
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