New Chiefs Stadium

[langosta]

New stadium market survey is on the chiefs website

I ranked covered, Missouri, and added in accessible by rail as “other” decision making factors. How are others thinking?

[beautyfromashes]

My family had PSL licenses for the Rams after they won the Super Bowl. It was such a Ponzi-scheme scam. Just a way for the team to pull some of the financial benefit from current season ticket holders. It all starts to crumble when the good team takes a downturn. You're also competing against the team for resale of tickets and always lose. If it was a club setup like a European futbol club where the members set prices and pick executives, essentially owning the team, that would be awesome. But, there's never a benefit to keep prices low.

Main benefit of PSLs is that they are refundable. You are entitled to the amount you put in.

Those in St. Louis when the team left would have something to say about this! It was a huge deal to get funding back from PSLs.

[dnweava]

New stadium market survey is on the chiefs website

I ranked covered, Missouri, and added in accessible by rail as “other” decision making factors. How are others thinking?

I prefer renovating arrowhead, but on those chose Canopy (Bills style), Missouri, as my top preferences. (though they should have used the Seahawks stadium as a better example).

The renovation survey was lame, just a bunch of examples of club/lounge seats from other NFL stadiums, seems they are still tone deaf about how the last renovation design didn't do enough for the general seating folks, i.e. the majority of the fans.

[dnweava]

My family had PSL licenses for the Rams after they won the Super Bowl. It was such a Ponzi-scheme scam. Just a way for the team to pull some of the financial benefit from current season ticket holders. It all starts to crumble when the good team takes a downturn. You're also competing against the team for resale of tickets and always lose. If it was a club setup like a European futbol club where the members set prices and pick executives, essentially owning the team, that would be awesome. But, there's never a benefit to keep prices low.

Main benefit of PSLs is that they are refundable. You are entitled to the amount you put in.

Those in St. Louis when the team left would have something to say about this! It was a huge deal to get funding back from PSLs.

They literally had to sue the rams to get their last 9 years of the 30 year PSL refunded. Stan tied to screw over the PSL holders.

[beautyfromashes]

You'd have to think the T-Mobile Center could be the biggest loser in this whole play for stadiums. If they build a Chiefs stadium that would be covered, at least if not fully heated, they would steal much of the best concert business along with March Madness basketball and maybe even the Big12 tournament.

[KCPowercat]

My family had PSL licenses for the Rams after they won the Super Bowl. It was such a Ponzi-scheme scam. Just a way for the team to pull some of the financial benefit from current season ticket holders. It all starts to crumble when the good team takes a downturn. You're also competing against the team for resale of tickets and always lose. If it was a club setup like a European futbol club where the members set prices and pick executives, essentially owning the team, that would be awesome. But, there's never a benefit to keep prices low.

Main benefit of PSLs is that they are refundable. You are entitled to the amount you put in.

Not all are.

[DMNBT_RCJH]

You'd have to think the T-Mobile Center could be the biggest loser in this whole play for stadiums. If they build a Chiefs stadium that would be covered, at least if not fully heated, they would steal much of the best concert business along with March Madness basketball and maybe even the Big12 tournament.

I disagree.

[langosta]

You'd have to think the T-Mobile Center could be the biggest loser in this whole play for stadiums. If they build a Chiefs stadium that would be covered, at least if not fully heated, they would steal much of the best concert business along with March Madness basketball and maybe even the Big12 tournament.

I disagree.

The pie will grow. T-Mobile is right sized for the events it holds maybe some would grow into a NFL stadium but not many. A domed NFL stadium would compete for a class of events we don’t have as well as conventions and shows that need a bigger floor area, nicer meetings spaces, or large audiences.

[KCPowercat]

You'd have to think the T-Mobile Center could be the biggest loser in this whole play for stadiums. If they build a Chiefs stadium that would be covered, at least if not fully heated, they would steal much of the best concert business along with March Madness basketball and maybe even the Big12 tournament.

I disagree.

The pie will grow. T-Mobile is right sized for the events it holds maybe some would grow into a NFL stadium but not many. A domed NFL stadium would compete for a class of events we don’t have as well as conventions and shows that need a bigger floor area, nicer meetings spaces, or large audiences.

A "downtown" nfl stadium isn't moving KC up in convention city tiers. It would take much more than we are willing to invest

[BrisbaneKC]

I hope the survey is just the Chiefs going through the process in a linear fashion rather than a genuine desire to act upon the results. If they listen to the fans verbatim all we will end up with again is a detached venue with huge surface lots, convenient highway access and in the worst parts of the metro. Development in this city now is at a point where the general public should more or less be completely ignored. Or maybe people like me should be ignored and we should just allow the city to become one big suburb as is desired by the vast majority.