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It should have been designed in a style similar to the space needle that was originally envisioned as part of the TSC.
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I would love to see the press box monstrosity go away, but not sure where'd they put those people as the old press box has been converted to suites.

There's a big opportunity in the 100 level concourse area to add several more suites, but they can only do that if they were to wrap the entire stadium in a new structure allowing the concourses to be much wider and the concessions to be pushed back dozens of feet.

They're not getting rid of the football shaped LED screens but there's room to go bigger.
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shinatoo wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:09 am
TheUrbanRoo wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 12:32 am Just wrap an exterior around it to cover up all that ugly concrete, and please please get new and/or more video boards. Was at the game last night and it's such a pain in the ass to try to see it from either side. Obv clean up the common area's too. If we just do that it's great.
Where are you going to put large video boards other than where they are now?
They can't put video boards anywhere else...but they sure can make them a hell of alot bigger.
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Just brain vomiting here.

Demolish the current lower bowl, which rests on soil, and rebuild it using modern construction methods. This would open up significant space for new amenities beneath the stands. Lower the playing surface by 5 to 8 feet to align with the players’ 50-yard line tunnel, creating additional space under the lower bowl for premium upgrades, including field-level suites, similar to those at SoFi and Allegiant Stadiums.

As part of the reconstruction, in-floor radiant heating should be installed to keep lower-level guests, especially their feet, warm in colder weather.

A new partial roof, similar to the design being used for the Bills' new stadium, would allow for the integration of radiant heaters and an upgraded sound system. This roof would provide shelter to the most exposed seats while preserving the iconic shape of Arrowhead by maintaining a consistent elevation around the stadium.

Keep LED screen shapes, go as big as possible. Add upper level ribbon board.

Lastly, while unlikely, it would be a significant aesthetic improvement to remove the unsightly press box.

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Picture for example but roof would continue 360 around stadium.
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Love the in floor radiant heat idea. A person can be triple layer bundled but loose a lot of heat through their feet from the super chilled concrete. I imagine it could even melt off the snow if given a few days. Do any stadiums at present have this?
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DColeKC wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 2:31 pm Just brain vomiting here.

Demolish the current lower bowl, which rests on soil, and rebuild it using modern construction methods. This would open up significant space for new amenities beneath the stands. Lower the playing surface by 5 to 8 feet to align with the players’ 50-yard line tunnel, creating additional space under the lower bowl for premium upgrades, including field-level suites, similar to those at SoFi and Allegiant Stadiums.

As part of the reconstruction, in-floor radiant heating should be installed to keep lower-level guests, especially their feet, warm in colder weather.

A new partial roof, similar to the design being used for the Bills' new stadium, would allow for the integration of radiant heaters and an upgraded sound system. This roof would provide shelter to the most exposed seats while preserving the iconic shape of Arrowhead by maintaining a consistent elevation around the stadium.

Keep LED screen shapes, go as big as possible. Add upper level ribbon board.

Lastly, while unlikely, it would be a significant aesthetic improvement to remove the unsightly press box.

Picture for example but roof would continue 360 around stadium.
I'd go for a semi transparent roof over just the sides, so it still feels like an outdoor stadium and sunlight can come in during the colder months.

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DColeKC wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 2:31 pm Just brain vomiting here.

Demolish the current lower bowl, which rests on soil, and rebuild it using modern construction methods. This would open up significant space for new amenities beneath the stands. Lower the playing surface by 5 to 8 feet to align with the players’ 50-yard line tunnel, creating additional space under the lower bowl for premium upgrades, including field-level suites, similar to those at SoFi and Allegiant Stadiums.

As part of the reconstruction, in-floor radiant heating should be installed to keep lower-level guests, especially their feet, warm in colder weather.

A new partial roof, similar to the design being used for the Bills' new stadium, would allow for the integration of radiant heaters and an upgraded sound system. This roof would provide shelter to the most exposed seats while preserving the iconic shape of Arrowhead by maintaining a consistent elevation around the stadium.

Keep LED screen shapes, go as big as possible. Add upper level ribbon board.

Lastly, while unlikely, it would be a significant aesthetic improvement to remove the unsightly press box.

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Picture for example but roof would continue 360 around stadium.
Dropping the field would mess up the upper deck sightlines.
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Why not just do a video board ring like Sofi?
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shinatoo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:22 pm
DColeKC wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 2:31 pm Just brain vomiting here.

Demolish the current lower bowl, which rests on soil, and rebuild it using modern construction methods. This would open up significant space for new amenities beneath the stands. Lower the playing surface by 5 to 8 feet to align with the players’ 50-yard line tunnel, creating additional space under the lower bowl for premium upgrades, including field-level suites, similar to those at SoFi and Allegiant Stadiums.

As part of the reconstruction, in-floor radiant heating should be installed to keep lower-level guests, especially their feet, warm in colder weather.

A new partial roof, similar to the design being used for the Bills' new stadium, would allow for the integration of radiant heaters and an upgraded sound system. This roof would provide shelter to the most exposed seats while preserving the iconic shape of Arrowhead by maintaining a consistent elevation around the stadium.

Keep LED screen shapes, go as big as possible. Add upper level ribbon board.

Lastly, while unlikely, it would be a significant aesthetic improvement to remove the unsightly press box.

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Picture for example but roof would continue 360 around stadium.
Dropping the field would mess up the upper deck sightlines.
You think so?

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beautyfromashes wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:54 pm Why not just do a video board ring like Sofi?
It’s an uncovered stadium without a roof structure, viewed from the upper levels? Etc
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Cincinnati is now slated to get a $1.25 billion renovation for its NFL stadium
https://www.wlwt.com/article/paycor-sta ... s/62244323

Add yet another city the list of cities getting real new stadium/renovation:
-Buffalo
-Nashville
-Jacksonville
-Cleveland
-Chicago

But don't worry, your dynasty champion Kansas City Chiefs aren't allowed to move or do anymore than build suite's & new bathrooms. Great!
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that Cincy plan looks about as impressive as the Chiefs half assed plan was.
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KCPowercat wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2024 5:21 pm that Cincy plan looks about as impressive as the Chiefs half assed plan was.
Never want to be compared to the Cinci NFL Team. Rather them take five more years than do that!
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KCPowercat wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2024 5:21 pm that Cincy plan looks about as impressive as the Chiefs half assed plan was.
Big thing there looks like the practice facility. Cincinnati has always been a bit of a laughing stock in that regard with their cheap owner. I think they were or are the most northerly team in pro football or D1 without an indoor practice field.
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Hence my point it doesn't fit theurbanroo narrative.
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I read somewhere that the Beagles owner told the local media to stop taking pictures of players entering the practice facility because it's in a concrete truck parking lot and it makes them look bad lol

https://maps.app.goo.gl/5rYXEpsonAhH14ZE8
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The Hunts just got Frisco to give them $182 million to remodel their MLS stadium.
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TheUrbanRoo wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:30 pm Cincinnati is now slated to get a $1.25 billion renovation for its NFL stadium
https://www.wlwt.com/article/paycor-sta ... s/62244323

Add yet another city the list of cities getting real new stadium/renovation:
-Buffalo
-Nashville
-Jacksonville
-Cleveland
-Chicago

But don't worry, your dynasty champion Kansas City Chiefs aren't allowed to move or do anymore than build suite's & new bathrooms. Great!
So much of what they want or could do depends on the Royals timeline. It only makes sense to build a new state-of-the-art practice facility and game-day activation area where the K currently sits.

As a long time season ticket holder, what's more apparently needed in my opinion than ever is a massive upgrade to the lower and upper level concourses. They need to be 5 times the size they are now at minimum all the way around the stadium.

This project is made far more complicated by the fact that they're in the midst of the dynasty run and you don't want to do anything to lessen that game day experience during the best times in franchise history. So I'm not surprised they're taking their time.
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what did stl do with all of the money they "saved" by not building a new NFL stadium? what did they do with their settlement dollars? feels like they really had an opportunity to do something great on both fronts.
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dnweava wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:27 am Just a reminder that Kansas only earned $7 million from sports betting for it's first full year. Sports betting tax revenue will not pay for a stadium alone in either state so we don't have to worry about Kansas being able to use that to build the Chiefs a $2 billion dome capable of hosting superbowls/final fours like they may want. I also don't think the NFL or NCAA would have any interest in hosting events at the legends when so many cities have downtown domes and Chicago and Nashville are about to join that downtown Dome list of cities like Detroit, Indy, New Orleans, etc They aren't hosting their event in a field in Kansas over downtown in a cool city.

MO has twice the population, and some of that $7 million is coming from MO residents living in KC that drive to KS to bet, so you can expect that to go down once MO legalizes it. Let's say the state of MO offers the Chiefs $10-15 million/year from expected sports betting revenue, there would still be a big gap in funding to fill.
Missouri could legalize sports gambling. How much tax revenue could it generate?
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In 2023, Kansans took full advantage of the chance to bet on sports. They bet $194 million in February alone.

Even so, the state collected just $1,134 in tax revenue on those February bets.

Such paltry returns on the state’s new billion-dollar sports betting industry have appalled some Kansans, and now Missourians head to the polls in November with a chance to legalize sports betting. If they do, Missouri will likely see similarly large disparities between the volume of bets and how much money goes into state coffers.
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Missouri’s proposed law is not as loose as the rules in Kansas, but it likely won’t make the state more money. In Missouri, promotional bets would only be taxed if they are more than 25% of “all cash and cash equivalents received” by the sportsbook.

Here’s a look at how that might play out in Missouri based on recent results in Kansas.

In July 2024, DraftKings settled $56.9 million in online wagers in Kansas. The company had $1.3 million in promotional deductions — just 2%.

DraftKings wouldn’t have paid taxes under Missouri law. In fact, none of the Kansas sportsbooks would have paid taxes in 2024 under Missouri’s proposal because none ever came close to that 25% mark for promotional bets.
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https://thebeaconnews.org/stories/2024/ ... ling-work/
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