Capping the Loop

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DColeKC wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:45 pm
taxi wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:00 pm I will eat my shoe if the loop gets capped in the next decade.
I'm buying one of those Donald Trump shoes right now for your dining pleasure.
Generous of you to buy a second pair.
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taxi wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:52 am
DColeKC wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:45 pm
taxi wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:00 pm I will eat my shoe if the loop gets capped in the next decade.
I'm buying one of those Donald Trump shoes right now for your dining pleasure.
Generous of you to buy a second pair.
I'd like one a pair in each color but you know, inflation.
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Our construction RFP for the South Loop Park is now live! This is the next step in bringing our visionary urban park to life in downtown KC. Interested applicants can learn more at http://kcmo.gov/news
https://x.com/KansasCity/status/1834638209541632102
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The trees in the RFP rendering are lol unrealistic. Trees of that size and quantity would not work on a bridge.

Hopefully proposals would sacrifice Truman Road South space to be able to plant a long row of trees that eventually would create shade from south sun. People aren't going to want to spend significant time in the summer months on a concrete island.
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kcmiz wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 12:44 pm The trees in the RFP rendering are lol unrealistic. Trees of that size and quantity would not work on a bridge.

Hopefully proposals would sacrifice Truman Road South space to be able to plant a long row of trees that eventually would create shade from south sun. People aren't going to want to spend significant time in the summer months on a concrete island.
Seems to work well down in Dallas.

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The big trees in the Dallas project are along the service road (a la Truman Road in KC). That is what I'm talking about along Truman Road South. You have soil below that could support large trees. The ones over the highway are species that will never become huge shady oak trees because the soil layer is too shallow.

My point is there is a real opportunity to add some needed green to the middle of the city. I hope they do it right. You will have to sacrifice some space on Truman Road South though to do it.
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kcmiz wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 1:08 pm The big trees in the Dallas project are along the service road (a la Truman Road in KC). That is what I'm talking about along Truman Road South. You have soil below that could support large trees. The ones over the highway are species that will never become huge shady oak trees because the soil layer is too shallow.

My point is there is a real opportunity to add some needed green to the middle of the city. I hope they do it right. You will have to sacrifice some space on Truman Road South though to do it.
I don't know much about trees but I think Oak trees can thrive and grow to max potential is 3 or 4 feet of soil. I'm guessing there will be 4 foot of soil almost everywhere in this park based off the limited info I've seen.
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In the ground around here because of the clay soils oak taproots can go down 10 feet, but with good soil 4 feet is about all they need. They also need the feeder roots to spread out and this would not be optimal in confined planting troughs and when closely planted with other trees. They can thrive in these conditions if only continuously cared for with irrigation and feeding.
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One would hope that tree experts would be consulted in any plan to determine the best outcome.
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And something other than KC Parks and Rec in charge of maintaining the landscaping
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Won't the downtown CID likely maintain the park?
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https://www.kctv5.com/2024/09/13/south- ... -builders/

Visionary Urban Park, the most Kansas City of names.
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Sounds very much like a placeholder name. Assume it will be corporate branded or named after a Mayor soon enough.
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KCPowercat wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:28 pm Sounds very much like a placeholder name. Assume it will be corporate branded or named after a Mayor soon enough.
Sure, of course. But still. Haha.

You can tell the park is visionary because it is based off of existing parks elsewhere. /s
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yeah it's very much just like random words pushed together "park"
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It could be Derivative Urban Multipurpose Parkway -- DUMP
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“The bid process is going to take us a few weeks to a couple of months. We’ll probably break ground sometime in the mid to late winter,” Platt said. “The goal and the vision is to have the entire deck structure completed in advance of the World Cup.”

Platt thinks it may look rather simple compared to the finished project. In the Spring of 2026, he envisions grass on the deck and it may include soccer pitches, but nothing has been decided yet.
These types of things that are quickly built before big events end up turning into nightmares. The fact that final decisions haven't been made before they start construction indicates the park has not been thought through. Will it be engineered and constructed well to last? Or will they cut corners to get it built before the World Cup and then after we'll find out it has all sorts of flaws that will cost a lot to fix?
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quality public works construction has never been a hallmark of any modern government. It appears this thing has a big price tag then several layers of it costs X amount to get it done @ minimum. IF they get the full funding I'll be optimistic it gets done right. If they start with what they have with promises to finish it with the full vision then I'm sure we'll just get something super plain which would be a grass lid with some sidewalks, oh and maybe some lighting.
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11' Truman Road lanes with concrete dividers to bike lanes is something I can support.
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dukuboy1 wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 1:43 pm quality public works construction has never been a hallmark of any modern government. It appears this thing has a big price tag then several layers of it costs X amount to get it done @ minimum. IF they get the full funding I'll be optimistic it gets done right. If they start with what they have with promises to finish it with the full vision then I'm sure we'll just get something super plain which would be a grass lid with some sidewalks, oh and maybe some lighting.
What is your definition of "modern government?"
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