Power and Light District Official Tenant List

[DColeKC]

I don’t think todays average downtown dweller or person in general eats a legitimate breakfast. It’s grab and go or nothing at all.

Like a donut?

I could be crazy or biased, but I think the downtown resident in and around P&L is more health conscious to be slamming donuts on the regular. If they do, I think they'd just grab a 6'er from the store opposed to hitting up the donut shop daily. Once again, maybe they've got healthy donut options these days that I'm not aware of. I personally stay far away because I'll want 3 of them.

30% of Americans skip breakfast, so it's already the least popular meal of the day.

[shinatoo]

30% of Americans skip breakfast, so it's already the least popular meal of the day.

What about second breakfast?

[Anthony_Hugo98]

I don’t think todays average downtown dweller or person in general eats a legitimate breakfast. It’s grab and go or nothing at all.

Like a donut?

I could be crazy or biased, but I think the downtown resident in and around P&L is more health conscious to be slamming donuts on the regular. If they do, I think they'd just grab a 6'er from the store opposed to hitting up the donut shop daily. Once again, maybe they've got healthy donut options these days that I'm not aware of. I personally stay far away because I'll want 3 of them.

30% of Americans skip breakfast, so it's already the least popular meal of the day.

There’s still office tenants to consider, and being able to walk to snag a dozen donuts before you head into the office is not an insignificant factor.

Again too, while there isn’t a massive demand for sitdown breakfast during weekdays, the brunch demand in the neighborhood on weekends is insane. Breakfast doesn’t have to be exclusively breakfast to succeed in the area, but having more options wouldn’t hurt either.

[DColeKC]

Like a donut?

I could be crazy or biased, but I think the downtown resident in and around P&L is more health conscious to be slamming donuts on the regular. If they do, I think they'd just grab a 6'er from the store opposed to hitting up the donut shop daily. Once again, maybe they've got healthy donut options these days that I'm not aware of. I personally stay far away because I'll want 3 of them.

30% of Americans skip breakfast, so it's already the least popular meal of the day.

There’s still office tenants to consider, and being able to walk to snag a dozen donuts before you head into the office is not an insignificant factor.

Again too, while there isn’t a massive demand for sitdown breakfast during weekdays, the brunch demand in the neighborhood on weekends is insane. Breakfast doesn’t have to be exclusively breakfast to succeed in the area, but having more options wouldn’t hurt either.

I think they do better for brunch compared to traditional breakfast hours. Many of the bars have tried brunch and can’t keep traction. A few, like Bristol kill it.

The office factor isn’t nothing but it’s not as impactful as anyone could hope. I’d say your faster spots like chipotle benefit most for the office lunch crowds. Too many lunch options during the week for the low demand.

[KCPowercat]

As a brunch expert only bristol has ever been above horrible for brunch in pnl. Homegrown will do fine for that. It's the midweek breakfast that will be slower but that's pretty normal for all their locations id bet

[mean]

Did anyone consider the possibility that the reason Fran's did poorly was that it was terrible? I was excited for it, and when I went it was a Greek tragedy of bad service, awful food, and shattered expectations--which weren't that high in the first place (I like to think I'm realistic at least). I was just glad to have a nearby late-night spot to drunkenly gorge on mediocre poutine. But damn was it bad. I'm not sure how drunk I would've had to have been for it to be good.

I mean, there's certainly a chicken-and-egg argument to be made, and maybe it was great when it opened and declined rapidly due to a lack of revenue, I have no idea. I'm not sure how long into their short tenure I managed to stop by for my poutine fix. I just know it was bad.

[DColeKC]

Did anyone consider the possibility that the reason Fran's did poorly was that it was terrible? I was excited for it, and when I went it was a Greek tragedy of bad service, awful food, and shattered expectations--which weren't that high in the first place (I like to think I'm realistic at least). I was just glad to have a nearby late-night spot to drunkenly gorge on mediocre poutine. But damn was it bad. I'm not sure how drunk I would've had to have been for it to be good.

I mean, there's certainly a chicken-and-egg argument to be made, and maybe it was great when it opened and declined rapidly due to a lack of revenue, I have no idea. I'm not sure how long into their short tenure I managed to stop by for my poutine fix. I just know it was bad.

I don't remember much about the quality of the food but at that point in my life, a late night place to get one (5) more draft beers and some high calorie, belt busting food was what I wanted and it was great. The service was fine at first but honestly, no one wanted to work the late shifts because who wants to deal with drunk assholes like you at 3am!

Honestly though, it didn't survive because of the late night issues, incessant employee stealing and lack of downtown residents propping it up during the week. It did it's best revenue late-night but that's where all the issues were. I don't think I ever ate there sober to be honest. I didn't know that was even an option.

[GRID]

I just hope four light it as least 35 floors. I know it's mostly just for aesthetics and it really doesn't matter, but it sure would look a lot better.
Especially if it's on another huge parking pedestal.

[Highlander]

I don’t think todays average downtown dweller or person in general eats a legitimate breakfast. It’s grab and go or nothing at all.

Like a donut?

I could be crazy or biased, but I think the downtown resident in and around P&L is more health conscious to be slamming donuts on the regular. If they do, I think they'd just grab a 6'er from the store opposed to hitting up the donut shop daily. Once again, maybe they've got healthy donut options these days that I'm not aware of. I personally stay far away because I'll want 3 of them.

30% of Americans skip breakfast, so it's already the least popular meal of the day.

Breakfast out has undergone a fairly recent resurgence though and there have been a considerable number of breakfast/lunch only places emerging in the past few years. That's starting to slowdown due to the same inflationary pressures that are hitting the fast food industry: paying an inordinate amount for a meal that was relatively inexpensive just a few years ago. We eat breakfast out very infrequently now relative to pre covid. Breakfast for my wife and I with coffee is now pushing $40 at a more upscale place like Homegrown. As popular as that place has been, I would not be surprised to see their business drop off across the metro with the increase in competition and fewer people going out to breakfast due to price.

[dukuboy1]

I'd like the idea of a small scale Krispy Kreme in downtown, or a small Lamar's would do well.

Surprised there is not a Dunkin Donuts somewhere downtown. Their donuts are very middle of the road but people love the coffee and coffee drinks. I'd say it is the next tier down from Starbucks in terms of overall customer loyalty/usage.

[kcjak]

Dunkin would be great and they have to-go only locations now. A dozen glazed at Lamar's now costs $34.99...I'd rather spend that at a Homegrown or even Panera.

[mgsports]

I'd like the idea of a small scale Krispy Kreme in downtown, or a small Lamar's would do well.

Surprised there is not a Dunkin Donuts somewhere downtown. Their donuts are very middle of the road but people love the coffee and coffee drinks. I'd say it is the next tier down from Starbucks in terms of overall customer loyalty/usage.

Tim Hortons.

[dukuboy1]

I'd like the idea of a small scale Krispy Kreme in downtown, or a small Lamar's would do well.

Surprised there is not a Dunkin Donuts somewhere downtown. Their donuts are very middle of the road but people love the coffee and coffee drinks. I'd say it is the next tier down from Starbucks in terms of overall customer loyalty/usage.

Tim Hortons.

Thought about that but still surprised no Dunkin’s downtown somewhere. Plus Tim Hortons will be neat but no real brand recognition around here

[FangKC]

One would think a Dunkin Donuts would do okay in the base of the City parking garage at 12th and Oak.

[dnweava]

Lame. I'd rather have steak n shake, DQ, or any reasonable priced place over another place I'll never visit dure to their insane prices.

Many people downtown are now bringing their lunch to work everyday instead of going out to eat with coworkers like they did in the pre-covid years as there is nothing fast and affordable left besides like chipotle since city center food court closed. I often leave downtown to eat lunch, NKC has better options.

How sad is that, people have to leave downtown to eat an affordable lunch...

[GRID]

Lame. I'd rather have steak n shake, DQ, or any reasonable priced place over another place I'll never visit dure to their insane prices.

Many people downtown are now bringing their lunch to work everyday instead of going out to eat with coworkers like they did in the pre-covid years as there is nothing fast and affordable left besides like chipotle since city center food court closed. I often leave downtown to eat lunch, NKC has better options.

How sad is that, people have to leave downtown to eat an affordable lunch...

And I assume people get in their cars and drive to places like NKC for lunch lol.

City Center SQ and Town Pavilion used to have huge bustling food courts when I worked down there. The McDonalds there along with the one on the plaza were both probably two of the busiest in the city.

[dukuboy1]

some Fast Food or more Fast casual places would be nice. I mean you have Pickleman's, Planet Sub, Jimmy John's, Jason's Deli, & Subway. So if you want a sub you have choices. Anything else you are kind of SOL. Again, I'd think small scale fast food chains like McDonalds would be great and only offer breakfast and lunch service, close at 3pm daily.

[DColeKC]

Lame. I'd rather have steak n shake, DQ, or any reasonable priced place over another place I'll never visit dure to their insane prices.

Many people downtown are now bringing their lunch to work everyday instead of going out to eat with coworkers like they did in the pre-covid years as there is nothing fast and affordable left besides like chipotle since city center food court closed. I often leave downtown to eat lunch, NKC has better options.

How sad is that, people have to leave downtown to eat an affordable lunch...

No one was going out for lunch during the week before Covid. Not enough anyway. Not on the scale needed to see more fast options show up. We’ve added Modern Market and Homegrown in the last several months.

You’re not getting a fast food joint to open downtown unless they can have a drive thru.

This shake place isn’t like DQ that someone might hit up one a week. It’s just as much about the experience and social media moment as it is about the taste of the food. They’re also expensive because you get a huge serving most often meant to be shared.

Don’t like it, don’t buy it!

[KCPowercat]

Chipotle is really the only real fast food place in P&L that was ever consistent for lunch goers and it does great. I could see more well run fast food working in P&L just fine.

Of the office workers I know they consistently will darken the doors of Flying Saucer (at the time), Johnnys, and Ice House. These are people who aren't right next to P&l either.

[dnweava]

Lame. I'd rather have steak n shake, DQ, or any reasonable priced place over another place I'll never visit dure to their insane prices.

Many people downtown are now bringing their lunch to work everyday instead of going out to eat with coworkers like they did in the pre-covid years as there is nothing fast and affordable left besides like chipotle since city center food court closed. I often leave downtown to eat lunch, NKC has better options.

How sad is that, people have to leave downtown to eat an affordable lunch...

No one was going out for lunch during the week before Covid. Not enough anyway. Not on the scale needed to see more fast options show up. We’ve added Modern Market and Homegrown in the last several months.

You’re not getting a fast food joint to open downtown unless they can have a drive thru.

This shake place isn’t like DQ that someone might hit up one a week. It’s just as much about the experience and social media moment as it is about the taste of the food. They’re also expensive because you get a huge serving most often meant to be shared.

Don’t like it, don’t buy it!

I won't be buying it lol.

The demand is there, I guarantee it. I hear people complaining about there being nowhere to eat lunch every week. There were multiple places in Center City that always had long lines. A cheap fast Chinese place would have a line out the door every day. A Panera would do gang busters, the crown center location is too far to walk for a quick lunch from the CBD.

The Mexican place where Jason's is now was cheap, I bet a reasonably priced Mexican place would kill.

A good pizza by the slice would be great, costentinos pizza is probably the worst pizza on earth.

My small hometown of 3,000 can somehow keep a dozen fast food places open but 100k downtown workers and 30k residents can't keep more than 2 open? Come on bro....