Downtown Mission/ The Gateway

[Highlander]

Mission is definitely seeing a bit of a revival which is great because it has backslid a little since I lived in that area in the 80's.

So what is the status of the Mission Gateway part of downtown Mission. That corner of Mission remains kind of a festering sore. While at it, I wish the city would fix the interchange at Roe and SMP. A highway interchange is not needed there, just make it into a standard intersection and the city could even reclaim some land that is now dedicated to unneeded cloverleafs.

Mission Gateway has its incentive package canceled by the city and I think they’re still in the court process now.

As for Roe and SMP, do you mean Metcalf? Roe/Johnson Drive has a few ramps, but nothing major.

Yes, not really cloverleafs. I think it's mostly due to some utilities/infra in the area that prevents a more standard intersection.

Yes and a small creek that apparently floods from time to time. But the entire interchange is more complex than it needs to be. And I meant Johnson Drive and not Roe.

[mjbauer95]

I think Mission Gateway is in default. No one really knows what's going to happen.

[bchociej]

Mission is definitely seeing a bit of a revival which is great because it has backslid a little since I lived in that area in the 80's.

So what is the status of the Mission Gateway part of downtown Mission. That corner of Mission remains kind of a festering sore. While at it, I wish the city would fix the interchange at Roe and SMP. A highway interchange is not needed there, just make it into a standard intersection and the city could even reclaim some land that is now dedicated to unneeded cloverleafs.

Mission Gateway has its incentive package canceled by the city and I think they’re still in the court process now.

As for Roe and SMP, do you mean Metcalf? Roe/Johnson Drive has a few ramps, but nothing major.

Yes, not really cloverleafs. I think it's mostly due to some utilities/infra in the area that prevents a more standard intersection.

Let's not overlook the challenges involved in getting the state to fund, or indeed even consent to, any reasonable projects involving their highways. Anything involving SMP or Metcalf that isn't designed to blast cars through nonstop at 65mph is basically a non-starter.

[bchociej]

I think Mission Gateway is in default. No one really knows what's going to happen.

The development agreement with the city was terminated last year due to default. Meanwhile, the property owner, Aryeh Realty, is party to a court case involving foreclosure and several liens, and the city is not a party to that case. You can lookup civil cases using Aryeh Realty as a partial name search on the county courts website to view more information: https://public.jococourts.org/index.aspx

[grovester]

Mission Gateway has its incentive package canceled by the city and I think they’re still in the court process now.

As for Roe and SMP, do you mean Metcalf? Roe/Johnson Drive has a few ramps, but nothing major.

Yes, not really cloverleafs. I think it's mostly due to some utilities/infra in the area that prevents a more standard intersection.

Let's not overlook the challenges involved in getting the state to fund, or indeed even consent to, any reasonable projects involving their highways. Anything involving SMP or Metcalf that isn't designed to blast cars through nonstop at 65mph is basically a non-starter.

Haha, thought that went without saying.

[mjbauer95]

At the very least, they should remove one lane on the entrance/exit ramps to SMP. I can't see how current traffic could justify two lanes, especially for going onto shawnee mission parkway, where only one vehicle is allowed on at once. Could convert extra lane to shared use path, maybe linking to brookridge dr.

[mjbauer95]

I saw this on Apple Maps today. Sounds like we're getting an Element by Marriot? Anyone ever stayed at one of those? Hopefully Mission council pushes them to be good community stewards, even if they understandably feel desperate to get something going here.

[Chris Stritzel]

Apple Maps is false. There has been no movement on the Mission Gateway site. An Element Hotel was once a potential component of the now-dead plan.

[mjbauer95]

Apple Maps is false. There has been no movement on the Mission Gateway site. An Element Hotel was once a potential component of the now-dead plan.

Huh, I wonder why it just showed up in the last week.

I heard a rumor that there were going to be new owners soon but nothing concrete.

[mistervinix]

I can't imagine how they can just pick up and start again after FOUR years. What a waste.

[GRID]

This project is hilarious. China has built a national high speed rail system in less time. Melbourne has built a regional subway system in less time. Austin's skyline went form being about the size of Omaha to larger than Denver in less time. I worked on this project over 20 years ago when I worked for a KC engineering firm.

[dukuboy1]

Just a waste, shitty developers from what I understand. Big plans but they all have not had 2 pennies to rub together for 20 yrs. Makes me wonder if it would have been better off just leaving it as the old Mission Mall and do some minor development to the existing structures rather than razing it?

So odd that such a prominent corner can not find a developer worth a damn to build something of use. There have been other successful developments go on around it, including the revamp of businesses along Johnson Dr. to Metcalf.

[mjbauer95]

You can follow the court case here btw:

https://public.jococourts.org/civroa.as ... =20CV03440

I'm no expert but it sounds like the bank wants to foreclose on Aryeh/Cameron and sell the property to someone else. The court case seems ridiculously slow - I assume because Aryeh still thinks they can get the money to continue development?

[dukuboy1]

The foreclosure process is very lengthy and there is a lot of due diligence required by the lender. I work on the residential side of things for a bank and there are detailed steps that must be followed over a several month process. My guess is something similar here. And I'm sure the timetable gets reset with every motion filled by the current owner showing just cause they have money and intentions to move forward.

[Cratedigger]

Mission considering a 75% tax abatement for the Milhaus, Mission Beverly apartments near Johnson Drive

https://johnsoncountypost.com/2024/06/1 ... ts-235846/

[mjbauer95]

It looks like they are wrapping up the Mission Bowl apartments, with people set to move in very soon. The developer says 40 of the 176 units are already leased. That seems pretty low to me, is that normal for a new apartment building? The developer must think it's good because they are going ahead with a phase two right next door.

Article: https://johnsoncountypost.com/2024/08/3 ... if-240879/

Another thing I noticed is the developer's website says "Mixed Use" under the project. Am I wrong, or is this not what you would normally think of as mixed use? Sounds like 100% residential. Perhaps they mean a mix of 2 bedrooms and 3 bedrooms haha?

[langosta]

It looks like they are wrapping up the Mission Bowl apartments, with people set to move in very soon. The developer says 40 of the 176 units are already leased. That seems pretty low to me, is that normal for a new apartment building? The developer must think it's good because they are going ahead with a phase two right next door.

Article: https://johnsoncountypost.com/2024/08/3 ... if-240879/

Another thing I noticed is the developer's website says "Mixed Use" under the project. Am I wrong, or is this not what you would normally think of as mixed use? Sounds like 100% residential. Perhaps they mean a mix of 2 bedrooms and 3 bedrooms haha?

23% leased at onset is normal. Would proforma 7-10% leased month 1 typically for the groups I’ve worked for.

[bchociej]

It looks like they are wrapping up the Mission Bowl apartments, with people set to move in very soon. The developer says 40 of the 176 units are already leased. That seems pretty low to me, is that normal for a new apartment building? The developer must think it's good because they are going ahead with a phase two right next door.

Article: https://johnsoncountypost.com/2024/08/3 ... if-240879/

Another thing I noticed is the developer's website says "Mixed Use" under the project. Am I wrong, or is this not what you would normally think of as mixed use? Sounds like 100% residential. Perhaps they mean a mix of 2 bedrooms and 3 bedrooms haha?

23% leased at onset is normal. Would proforma 7-10% leased month 1 typically for the groups I’ve worked for.

Another consideration: the building is L shaped (sort of) with two "wings", only one of which looks to be finished. This is just what I can ascertain from looking out my window at the building, not an official status update of any kind.

[bchociej]

Actually, I believe I'm seeing occupied units throughout the building now.

[mjbauer95]

Going off the website, there's only 44 units available. That might not include unfinished apartments though. Still sounds like a strong showing.

I hate to say it, but it's not a very good looking building from the outside. I'm happy to see something built there, and maybe it's just me that doesn't like it. I assume phase 2 would have a similar appearance?

I'm hopeful it helps spur development/occupancy on this side of Mission, though. I know the Gateway imbroglio cannot be helped right now, but the old Wild Oats Building, and now Wendy's are both unoccupied now. Would a couple hundred more residents make that real estate more viable? We moved to the area in 2022, and at the time it really looked like Gateway would be a walkable amenity for us. I've now learned the history and skeptical anything will ever get done there.