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Sad shit.
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smh wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:51 am
shinatoo wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:47 am If these are the same teens that KCPD has been catch and releasing all summer there needs to be a serious inquiry.
How will we ever know given the opaqueness of KCPD? Super frustrating.
If they are teenagers it’s unlikely you’ll be able to get any information.

I will also say, it’s only the KCPD’s job to catch and provide evidence, the decision to release juveniles is not that of Jean Peters Baker, but rather that of an administrative judge (not elected judge). The “prosecutor” of juvenile crimes, unless charged as an adult, is the juvenile officer, who also makes the recommendation to try as an adult. The Juvenile Officer is also an unelected individual appointed by the Court.

Jean Peters Baker really has no control over juvenile detention and proceedings.
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GRID wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 12:17 pmSad shit.
Horrible. It sounds like they arrested them.

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https://fox4kc.com/news/kcpd-arrests-ju ... brookside/
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assuming KCPD puts together a strong case in the brady shooting, these teens will almost certainly be charged as adults...
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Let's hope it's only one group of teens doing this much terror. I fear it's more than one group though .

Super frustrating sounds like KCPD knew who they were and got them immediately because of that.
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KCPowercat wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:59 pm Let's hope it's only one group of teens doing this much terror. I fear it's more than one group though .

Super frustrating sounds like KCPD knew who they were and got them immediately because of that.
It's the whole hood. It's not secret that all the hood hoodlums are venturing out from their blocks to the plaza, midtown, and downtown every night and wrecking havoc. Who else do you think is driving all the stolen Dodge's and four wheelers into these areas to commit said crimes? Nobody from OP or North of the river is driving their four wheelers downtown.
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DMNBT_RCJH wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:38 pm
smh wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:51 am
shinatoo wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:47 am If these are the same teens that KCPD has been catch and releasing all summer there needs to be a serious inquiry.
How will we ever know given the opaqueness of KCPD? Super frustrating.
If they are teenagers it’s unlikely you’ll be able to get any information.

I will also say, it’s only the KCPD’s job to catch and provide evidence, the decision to release juveniles is not that of Jean Peters Baker, but rather that of an administrative judge (not elected judge). The “prosecutor” of juvenile crimes, unless charged as an adult, is the juvenile officer, who also makes the recommendation to try as an adult. The Juvenile Officer is also an unelected individual appointed by the Court.

Jean Peters Baker really has no control over juvenile detention and proceedings.
Half correct.

These teens and other criminals aren't being arrested and thus are not being "released", nor having any judge involvement. They're simply committing crime unabated due to the (very public) stance of these soft prosecutors, including JPB, who have directed their departments to essentially ignore non-violent crimes and refuse to bring charges for anything violent that doesn't essentially result in a hospitalization. Cops aren't arresting (or issuing charges) because of those actions. That's the simple reality of it.

In a perfect world a criminal would be subject to the full process. In reality, they aren't. Cops show up. Cops document. Prosecutor declines charges. NO judge involvement or additional prosecution occurs.
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That is far from the simple reality. But par for the course for this poster
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The sad thing is that it takes a higher profile death to make some kind of serious arrest/charges against the criminals even though there were cry's for help months ago with no real actions. It was a ticking time bomb and was always going to come to this kind of conclusion.
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Proactive policing works. Reactive gets us where we are right now.
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KCPowercat wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 9:36 am Proactive policing works. Reactive gets us where we are right now.
Yup

Also it’s not rocket science. If criminals think they will get caught and punished, they will be less likely to commit the crimes

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brewcrew1000 wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 8:02 am The sad thing is that it takes a higher profile death to make some kind of serious arrest/charges against the criminals even though there were cry's for help months ago with no real actions. It was a ticking time bomb and was always going to come to this kind of conclusion.
Yep, there were some posts a few weeks ago on the Waldo FB page regarding these kids driving around Waldo/Brookside pointing their AK-47s at people and driving off laughing. I think someone also posted a pic and sent it to the police. They were driving a stolen red KIA.
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Let's hope it's the same kids.

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KCPowercat wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 9:36 am Proactive policing works. Reactive gets us where we are right now.
Reactive + a lack of prosecution.
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They can't be prosecuted if they don't get arrested. This isn't really hard to figure out. The failure and slippage starts with the PD and their decision to act as the decider of the entire justice process when they pout and don't come out to protect and serve their citizens.
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KCPowercat wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:56 am Let's hope it's the same kids.

Don't leave KC_J!!!
Ha. I don't plan to move anytime soon. I don't owe that much on my 1928 tudor, so in 2 years I won't have a mortgage payment, which will be nice.

But this still shocks, irritates and saddens me that "good" people are having to change their activities and how they go about their lives because you don't know who's out there looking to cause trouble or just don't value human life. I don't even walk my boxer at night anymore because you just never know, especially if you are on a quiet street with no one else.
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KC_JAYHAWK wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 4:11 pm
KCPowercat wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:56 am Let's hope it's the same kids.

Don't leave KC_J!!!
Ha. I don't plan to move anytime soon. I don't owe that much on my 1928 tudor, so in 2 years I won't have a mortgage payment, which will be nice.

But this still shocks, irritates and saddens me that "good" people are having to change their activities and how they go about their lives because you don't know who's out there looking to cause trouble or just don't value human life. I don't even walk my boxer at night anymore because you just never know, especially if you are on a quiet street with no one else.
It does suck to have to reconsider doing things. I can't say I've changed any of my behaviors but I might just not be very smart and let fate decide.
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KCPowercat wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 2:01 pm They can't be prosecuted if they don't get arrested. This isn't really hard to figure out. The failure and slippage starts with the PD and their decision to act as the decider of the entire justice process when they pout and don't come out to protect and serve their citizens.
Good luck even getting through to 911
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Metro wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:39 pm
KCPowercat wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 2:01 pm They can't be prosecuted if they don't get arrested. This isn't really hard to figure out. The failure and slippage starts with the PD and their decision to act as the decider of the entire justice process when they pout and don't come out to protect and serve their citizens.
Good luck even getting through to 911
Also an area KCPD is failing us
https://www.kctv5.com/2024/01/04/kctv5- ... old-times/
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KCPowercat wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:58 pm
Metro wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:39 pm
KCPowercat wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 2:01 pm They can't be prosecuted if they don't get arrested. This isn't really hard to figure out. The failure and slippage starts with the PD and their decision to act as the decider of the entire justice process when they pout and don't come out to protect and serve their citizens.
Good luck even getting through to 911
Also an area KCPD is failing us
https://www.kctv5.com/2024/01/04/kctv5- ... old-times/
Oh my God. That’s terrifying. No wonder people move out of KC to the suburbs

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